Cotto's legacy after Martinez

[ColdBlooded]

Cotto isn't even a Jr Middleweight! Martinez should meet him in the middle. Roach says Cotto should get back to 147lbs!

If he's not even a junior middleweight then why is he fighting for the lineal championship at middleweight? That he is means he should not attempt a significant catchweight. Now, 157 would be significant as that is substantially lower than what Martinez has weighed in his past few fights. 159 is not because that's about where Martinez tends to weigh in. Point is, Cotto shouldn't try to force Martinez to lose extra weight if he wants to fight for the legitimate middleweight championship of the world.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because that's the ignorance in you. Carlos Quintana may not be a great boxer, but a fighter should receive credit where it's due for winning a fight where the consensus had it against him.

But they weren't. He was nowhere near an underdog against Carlos Quintana

[Jsmooth9876]

Cotto isn't even a Jr Middleweight! Martinez should meet him in the middle. Roach says Cotto should get back to 147lbs!

I agree with Roach..Even a shot Cotto could possibly beat Porter, Paulie again, Maidana, Broner....maybe even Thurman who knows..154 lbers are way too big for him as Trout proved..

[Beater_of_ass]

I stopped reading at this point

Cotto was the underdog against Quintana though... it has nothing to do with his quality of a fighter just people made bad betting lines. This fight is intriguing because usually Sergio is giving up all the physical advantages in reach, power, height and weight but is the better overall fighter. This time he will have the physical advantage but Cotto is the better boxer hands down, and it's that kind of style that gives Martinez's style all kinds of problems. If it was just based off of that I would favor Sergio though because he is the bigger fighter at a higher weight, the layoff and injuries make this fight winnable for Cotto.

Losing to the MW champion while moving up isn't a bad loss (not a 3 round KO) but no one nowadays fights the man when moving up or even at the full weight limit on top of that. If he were to win, he's already a first ballot HoF'r in my mind but anyone saying he isn't after that are full of ****, again should he win.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Cotto was the underdog against Quintana though... it has nothing to do with his quality of a fighter just people made bad betting lines.

He was not. Cotto was touted as a superstar from his 140lb days, he was a heavy favourite to beat Quintana. Stop the nonsense.

If Cotto beats Martinez, it will be his best win yet IMO. Don't see it happening though.

[Lords]

What is Cotto doing again? Martinez would be a good win for him but it doesn't make his losses go away. Cotto is past prime and Martinez is way past prime. I heard the fight is going to be at a catchweight of 159 so even if he wins he didn't win the true 160 pound title. A win over Martinez would help his legacy and he would become more overrated than he already is.

How is Martinez "way past prime" when his last loss was in 09 to Paul which he avenged. Sure he looked a little sloppy in the Murray fight but he looked superb against Chavez the fight before. Since when does looking sloppy in a fight make you "past prime"? There are a lot of current fighters in the primes who have had sloppy fights but it doesn't mean their "past prime". When Cotto beats Martinez this all we will hear, "Sergio is past prime".

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

He was not. Cotto was touted as a superstar from his 140lb days, he was a heavy favourite to beat Quintana. Stop the nonsense.

If Cotto beats Martinez, it will be his best win yet IMO. Don't see it happening though.

I agree with the Indio comment but one of his real big fights was the Kelson Pinto fight IMO...




PRPP

[Larry the boss]

at 140-won a vacant title
at 147-won 2 vacant titles
at 154-beat foreman


so his divisional titles are not impressive at all

[ColdBlooded]

As far as I'm aware, he's never been lineal champion of any weight division. Right?

[GhostBlade]

Cotto needs to have another fight with Pacquiao where he can get paid and then he should retire win or lose after that fight.