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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    He's not in mine last time I did one.

    I wouldn't argue if he was included in one though.

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      #12
      Do you mean Joe Louis or Lennox Lewis?

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      • toooooool
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        #13
        Can you read?

        Originally posted by LacedUp
        You put Marciano down as greater than Joe Louis.

        I'm sorry, but your opinion is worthless to me.

        You have Gene Tunney as higher than Larry Holmes, despite him being a career LHW - the weightclass he should have truly been ranked in.
        Can you read?...I said "NO PARTICULAR ORDER"..holy cow!

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          #14
          Originally posted by toooooool
          Can you read?...I said "NO PARTICULAR ORDER"..holy cow!
          I hadn't read that no.

          Regardless, I don't think Gene Tunney should be on a list higher than LL. I don't think Marciano should be either. Liston is a maybe - he's a 10-13 for me. I would have liked to have seen Holyfield in there as well. Charles, Langford, Walcott, Tyson etc would all be in with a shout for a spot in the top 12 as well.

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          • toooooool
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            #15
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            I hadn't read that no.

            Regardless, I don't think Gene Tunney should be on a list higher than LL. I don't think Marciano should be either. Liston is a maybe - he's a 10-13 for me. I would have liked to have seen Holyfield in there as well. Charles, Langford, Walcott, Tyson etc would all be in with a shout for a spot in the top 12 as well.
            Tunney never gets credit but I believe he only lost one fight to Harry Grebb.
            He was the first scientific fighter and he beat Dempsey twice.Even Muhammad
            Ali talked highly of his skills.I love Lennox Lewis,the only problem is that he
            got stretched out by two "average"fighters.I know they were avenged,but
            if Muhammad Ali got knocked out by Carl Mildenburger and Cleveland Williams
            he certainly wouldn't be the greatest or even make a top 10 maybe.

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              #16
              I reckon he'd be around no. 10. Between 9 and 12.

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                #17
                Originally posted by toooooool
                Tunney never gets credit but I believe he only lost one fight to Harry Grebb.
                He was the first scientific fighter and he beat Dempsey twice.Even Muhammad
                Ali talked highly of his skills.I love Lennox Lewis,the only problem is that he
                got stretched out by two "average"fighters.I know they were avenged,but
                if Muhammad Ali got knocked out by Carl Mildenburger and Cleveland Williams
                he certainly wouldn't be the greatest or even make a top 10 maybe.
                He never gets credit? He is frequently mentioned alongside the best LHWs of all times. His division. He does have one of the best wins at HW, but he's only fought there a couple of times. Not enough to deserve a top ten spot.

                Cleveland Williams is not in the same league as Mildenburger! He was a solid top 5-10 fighter at the time. Rahman was a bum in my opinion.

                Yup, horrible losses both of them. And avoidable as well, especially the rahman loss. he did what any great fighter would do though and avenged both his losses. He has a pretty great career and a good resume + good overall skills.

                He's border line top ten for me, but could easily put him there.

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                  He's in the top 5. Mention 5 guys better than him in HW, it's impossible, thus he must be top 5.

                  Klitschko, Tyson, Holyfield, Tua and man, I could go on, avenging both losses is also significant. He got great wins.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    I reckon he'd be around no. 10. Between 9 and 12.
                    I think you could make a case for him being anywhere between 8-13 ish. Wouldn't argue either way.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Xpert
                      Mention 5 guys better than him in HW.

                      Klitschko, Tyson, Holyfield, Tua and man, I could go on, avenging both losses is also significant. He got great wins.
                      Ali, Louis, Foreman, Holmes, Johnson.

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