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  • soul_survivor
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    #81
    Originally posted by Weebler I
    Yep, but I think most of those who oppose the Golovkin "hype" have vested interests in other fighters in and around his weight class.



    Seriously, Lara beats Golovkin?



    And that's your basis for being the "anti-hype"... talking about him fighting at a higher weight class. Talk about middleweights Soul.

    Even if Martinez beats him, it doesn't make him a bad fighter.
    I've never once stated GGG is a bad fighter. In fact I've said I'm more impressed with his boxing than I am with his power.

    What I'm saying is that his hype has reached catastrophic levels, people claiming he is on his way to being one of the greatest mws ever, people saying that he can and will beat everyone in and around his division. All of this and he has only beaten one top middleweight in his entire 30 fight career. That's what I dislike.

    let's get some perspective.

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    • Weebler I
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      #82
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      I've never once stated GGG is a bad fighter. In fact I've said I'm more impressed with his boxing than I am with his power.

      What I'm saying is that his hype has reached catastrophic levels, people claiming he is on his way to being one of the greatest mws ever, people saying that he can and will beat everyone in and around his division. All of this and he has only beaten one top middleweight in his entire 30 fight career. That's what I dislike.

      let's get some perspective.
      Yeah, but you don't talk about how Geale and Murray can beat him, or how can Sturm can beat him. You're not even sure Martinez beats him. Instead you move to the kingpins in a higher division, and when you do that, you're crossing the line to "hater" status (I dislike the term but it best describes your posts on him).

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      • New England
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        #83
        i don't give a f#ck about what most bsceners have to say about a fighter.


        golovkin is clearly a very good fighter. he has power, the chin, and a take no prisoners style. he cuts off the ring well, mixes his shots, and even rolled some of the adama offense in his last go.

        he's not just a brawler. he's not a pure boxer by any stretch, but he works in the subtleties of the game while coming forward.


        he's going to be in great fights if the competition is up to snuff. if the competition isn't up to snuff, he's going to knock these guys out.


        i don't know neccessarily what hype you're talking about, but when it comes to muh hype, golovkin earned it.

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          #84
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          Yep



          Yes it is frustrating, I like GGG too but all the hype he is getting is hilarious and will only hurt him, remember a certain Lucas Matthysse?

          Fact is, GGG will lose if he moves up and fights Ward and if Froch can get back to his best self (looked slow and old against Groves). I think Chavez Jr at 168 would take his power and could force the action, that'd be interesting to see. And then of course there's Martinez, if he can get back to his best possible self, he'll out work and school GGG, I truly believe that.
          Chavez jr would be an interesting fight, but Golovkin is a decent boxer, he has a good jab and more than enough power to prevent Jr to walk him down. I 'd favor Golovkin by decision.

          And I agree, Martinez at his best is fast and mobile enough to take Golovkin out of his comfort zone. At the current stage of Martinez' carreer though I don't think he has enough mobility to avoid being cornered and eventually out gunned. As said, Golovkin is a decent boxer, I don't think he'd look as lost as Chavez.

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            #85
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            I've never once stated GGG is a bad fighter. In fact I've said I'm more impressed with his boxing than I am with his power.

            What I'm saying is that his hype has reached catastrophic levels, people claiming he is on his way to being one of the greatest mws ever, people saying that he can and will beat everyone in and around his division. All of this and he has only beaten one top middleweight in his entire 30 fight career. That's what I dislike.

            let's get some perspective.


            golovkin would be favored against any other middleweight, and rightfully so. martinez is not getting any younger, and it's not a great division to begin with.


            when you've got to demand that a guy jump to fight [king] ward, he's not a bad fighter.

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            • Someone88
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              #86
              Golovkin dominates world class fighters, the hype is warranted. He's very likely the best middleweight in Boxing.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Someone88
                Golovkin dominates world class fighters, the hype is warranted. He's very likely the best middleweight in Boxing.


                this young russian king will stop martinez if they ever actually fight. dibella know it. expect martinez to retire.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  Canelo a decent fighter,, maybe calling him a hype job is harsh, but when your proclaimed the next golden boy and your struggling to look dominant vs hatton Rhodes etc then yes he is overly hyped... Fernando Vargas kills those guys and ggg would destroy that caliber of fighters

                  Canelo is safe cuz their isn't a lot of top talent at 154, but winky Vargas Oscar mccallum Norris, even Mosley would beat the hell out of canelo

                  Angulo has a really good chance IMO

                  Look at the hype canelo has received, it is way more than ggg
                  How then hell did Canelo struggle to dominate Hatton and Rhodes?

                  He dominated both of those fightts probably didn't lose a round to either of them.

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                  • The Noose
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                    #89
                    He looked plain bored in his last fight. I feel he will rise to the occasion when faced with real opposition.
                    Looks like a rock at the moment. But a bored, unmotivated rock.

                    Not sure how far he can go as far as p4p. If he beats Ward, which i dont think he will. Then what?
                    He does need Ward tho.

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                    • Someone88
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by New England
                      this young russian king will stop martinez if they ever actually fight. dibella know it. expect martinez to retire.
                      I think Martinez would fight him, but as you said Dibella might push for that. Golovkin very likely stops him if they fight.

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