The Official Miguel Cotto-Sergio Martinez Master Thread

[El Angel]

Unless Sergio is completely crocked I just can't see how this idea of Cotto bullying him has any hope of working. Cotto couldn't bully Austin Trout. Sergio withstood the power and pressure of Pavlik, Paul Williams, and Chavez Jr.

Can you imagine what Pavlik or Chavez Jr would have done to Cotto?

The monster pressure fighter that was Paul Williams.

[El Angel]

At middleweight, they're probably a higher caliber of fighter than he is.

We'll see....

[Da Boxer]

With possible exception of Dzinziruk, those guys were all better than Cotto at middleweight. They were legitimate, top 10 guys (Barker would become one). Cotto is not a real middleweight, and he's not as accomplished at 160 as any of them. Dzinziruk was arguably more accomplished at 154 than Cotto.

At middleweight, they're probably a higher caliber of fighter than he is.

Really? Really? You kidding right?

[BucaRican]

Almost impossible to land body shots when your opponent fights with his hands down.

You sir know nothing. Fights with his hands down to punch not block. Freddie has said it best he has no defense.

[ColdBlooded]

Really? Really? You kidding right?

Totally serious. Cotto has been at best, a B+ level contender at junior middleweight. He's not been on the level of top junior middleweights like Lara, Mayweather, and Alvarez. You really think he'll be any better at middleweight? It's doubtful that Cotto will even be top 10 material at middleweight. The guys Martinez has been fighting have been top 10 material at middleweight (except for Dzinziruk, he was one of the best junior middleweights at the time). I don't see how a B+ level junior middleweight poses the same kind of threat at middleweight as top class middleweights do.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Totally serious. Cotto has been at best, a B+ level contender at junior middleweight. He's not been on the level of top junior middleweights like Lara, Mayweather, and Alvarez. You really think he'll be any better at middleweight? It's doubtful that Cotto will even be top 10 material at middleweight. The guys Martinez has been fighting have been top 10 material at middleweight (except for Dzinziruk, he was one of the best junior middleweights at the time). I don't see how a B+ level junior middleweight poses the same kind of threat at middleweight as top class middleweights do.

This is actually a very solid post. I've said many times myself that Cotto lost a step at 154. He's still god, bit not as good as he was at 147. It seems reasonable to believe Miguel will continue to decline at 160.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Martinez is on his way down, his legs are never going to be the same, his mobility and conditioning will suffer because of it. Look for him to sit down and load up on his punches from the jump, he's going to look for the early finish because it's his best chance of winning. If he fails to hurt Cotto or put him away in the first half of the fight, it's all going to be downhill from there.

I'm going with Cotto by TKO in the 10th round.

Miguel's not exactly known for his stamina. You expect him to KO the larger man that late?

[L3TH4L]

Martinez's legs are never going to be the same, his mobility and conditioning will suffer because of it. Look for him to sit down and load up on his punches from the jump, his best chances of winning is by KO/TKO in the first half. If he fails to hurt Cotto badly or put him away early, it's all going to be downhill from there.

I'm going with Cotto by TKO in the 10th round.

[L3TH4L]

Miguel's not exactly known for his stamina. You expect him to KO the larger man that late?

I don't expect a bigger, older and injury ridden Martinez to be able to keep with his pace. Cotto was looking thick, solid, and tight in the open workouts compared to Martinez. Who's Martinez's S&C coach? I guarantee you he doesn't have the same credentials as Gavin Macmillan.

[BafanaBafana]

Open workout v. Martinez:



This Cotto looks nothing like the one Mayweather fought, I thought he'd be even more pudgy at 159.


Open workout v. Mayweather: