The Official Miguel Cotto-Sergio Martinez Master Thread

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  • jas
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    #791
    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
    full 24/7


    Green k worthy obviously. Thank you!

    Only one min in and all I can say is....oh my goodness

    This Intro is unbelievable

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    • bojangles1987
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      #792
      Originally posted by Da Boxer
      Really? You think so? I bet you all your points, Ill give you 2:1 odds. Sergio does not lays King Cotto out.
      I'd have to be crazy to bet on this fight.

      I genuinely don't know what to expect.

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      • -jose-
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        #793
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        full 24/7
        watched it last night and about to watch it again.

        24/7 gets my blood pumping.

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        • freedom213
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          #794
          Couple things from the 24/7. The Martinez that whooped Pavlik and P.williams, probably(because nothing is certain in boxing) would beat this version of Cotto. That said Martinez looks really soft, not sure when this footage was filmed but in every scene he looks far softer than I have ever seen him. Not good.....

          On the other hand Cotto does look renenergized, happy, fierce and in great shape. I think we will have ourselves a war people. One thing about Sergio he has a champions heart even if Father Time has caught up with him.
          Last edited by freedom213; 06-01-2014, 10:44 AM.

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          • Dr.Eisenfaust
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            #795
            Originally posted by freedom213
            Couple things from the 24/7. The Martinez that whooped Pavlik and P.williams, probably(because nothing is certain in boxing) would beat this version of Cotto. That said Martinez looks really soft, not sure when this footage was filmed but in every scene he looks far softer than I have ever seen him. Not good.....

            On the other hand Cotto does look renenergized, happy, fierce and in great shape. I think we will have ourselves a war people. One thing about Sergio he has a champions heart even if Father Time has caught up with him.
            Vitali Klitschko looked soft ( compared to his usual amazing shape) against Juan Carlos Gomez, an excellent cuban southpaw technician, and it didn't prevent him to batter him badly.

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            • freedom213
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              #796
              Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust
              Vitali Klitschko looked soft ( compared to his usual amazing shape) against Juan Carlos Gomez, an excellent cuban southpaw technician, and it didn't prevent him to batter him badly.
              Thats a valid point and only comes into play if Martinez needs his legs aka his usual fighting style to win. I think he might but I could be wrong.

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                #797
                I usually don't watch 24/7, but I had to watch this one. We're only six days away, and I'm so damn excited for this one. My nerves will be on edge just like they were last night.

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                • jas
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                  #798
                  whos faster: trout or sergio?

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                    #799
                    Originally posted by freedom213
                    Thats a valid point and only comes into play if Martinez needs his legs aka his usual fighting style to win. I think he might but I could be wrong.
                    Well, it's always very difficult to beat a taller southpaw, especially when the latter is a master technician. To beat these types of fighters you have to be a good technician and have a decent footwork.
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                    Is Cotto a good technician? Well, he is more of a slugger but he definitely has boxing abilities.

                    When it comes to footwork, Cotto always seems to put pressure very well for some rounds and then loses it.

                    I believe the reason why Martinez will be his experience and the fact that he is a very awkward technician.

                    This fight reminds me a bit ( just a little) of the Vitali Klitschko-Chisora fight. The slugger gets countered badly against the awkward technician ( even when the technician fights with a torn shoulder ligament for 8 rounds).

                    Martinez might have shot legs or problems with his back/shoulder, I think he would still win.

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                    • freedom213
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                      #800
                      Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust
                      Well, it's always very difficult to beat a taller southpaw, especially when the latter is a master technician. To beat these types of fighters you have to be a good technician and have a decent footwork.
                      beat
                      Is Cotto a good technician? Well, he is more of a slugger but he definitely has boxing abilities.

                      When it comes to footwork, Cotto always seems to put pressure very well for some rounds and then loses it.

                      I believe the reason why Martinez will be his experience and the fact that he is a very awkward technician.

                      This fight reminds me a bit ( just a little) of the Vitali Klitschko-Chisora fight. The slugger gets countered badly against the awkward technician ( even when the technician fights with a torn shoulder ligament for 8 rounds).

                      Martinez might have shot legs or problems with his back/shoulder, I think he would still win.
                      I think why this fight is exciting is not just because usually these guys always make exciting fights but more importantly there are enough intangibles that you each guy could fight his fight and come out on top, probably a bloody top.

                      I forgot to mention one of the parts I really liked in this episode was in the beginning. They showed Cotto the quote from Roach making the point that Cotto has no trainer, Cotto was the trainer and that was one of his biggest faults, then Cotto agrees. And wonders out loud what would have happened had he gotten with someone like Roach much earlier. Thats a big pill to swallow.

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