Duran lost biggest fights yet PFP great.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Marvin's comp at 160 was much more ferocious than Durans at 135. Durans top 30 rank comes from his body of work at 135 comp wise I give it a C, Buchanan dejesus, and a few others can't compare to,

What hagler had to go through with his reign. I rate guys who moved up and dominated over guys who only dominated one weight class. That's my criteria others say you only need to beat one fighter and you automatically get int the top ten. Lmao not mine.

Duran and marvin faced about the same level of competiton in terms of defenses,,, maybe a slight edge to hagler, but they are def in the same ballpark and not much difference

[Brandish]

Didn't Mayweather need to beat Oscar twice in order to really beat him? Wasn't it closer than Duran-Leonard?

Shane Mosley is not a top 50 ATG.

Shane dominated 135 with 12 title defenses and win titles at 147 and 154, if I gave Duran top 30-40 Shane us definitely top 50 considering they had similar careers

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Duran is top 20 no doubt,,,

highest ranking would be around 7, lowest would be around 15,, depending on your criteria,,


All you have to really do is watch 70s, 80s duran and you will realize he was born to fight,, it was in his blood,, the dude "got Off" from fighting,, loved to brawl it out, and yet had incredible technical skills which allowed him to go way up in weight,,,

If your truly a boxing fan and cant tell that duran was something special, then something is wrong with you

[MGMGRAND]

Shane dominated 135 with 12 title defenses and win titles at 147 and 154, if I gave Duran top 30-40 Shane us definitely top 50 considering they had similar careers

Nah, Mosley was top 75 at best, no way he can be compared to Duran, Shane's best win was against Oscar Delahoya, Durans best win was against Leonard.

Duran has the best win by light years.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Shane dominated 135 with 12 title defenses and win titles at 147 and 154, if I gave Duran top 30-40 Shane us definitely top 50 considering they had similar careers

Duran would beat the hell out of mosely,, his reign at 154 was a gift,

[LacedUp]

You can't fight everybody so I don't knock PAC for not fighting Floyd and his career isn't based on one fighter. He lost to torrecampo but he came back to win some big fights it's when you compare him to other skilled fighters who have competed in his weight class you realize how limited he was.

PAC all time is 70-80 very flashy but he never showed he could dominate a division and reign as the best. Hence the joke around here is everyone thinking PAC and Floyd were on the same level it's too funny.

You criticized his number of defenses - so I'm asking you, who should have defended against that would have made him higher in your estimation? Instead of moving from 108 to 154 or whatever it was, he should have stuck around and defended against guys nobody cared about?

How can you have Floyd #3 on your ATG list and at the same time have Pacquiao between 70-80 and have Mosley higher than Pacquaio?

that literally doesn't make any sense.

Pacquiao is a top 50 ATG. No question.

[Brandish]

Duran and marvin faced about the same level of competiton in terms of defenses,,, maybe a slight edge to hagler, but they are def in the same ballpark and not much difference

No way are they similar Duran at 135 has Buchanan and dejesus that's it,

Marvin had to defend against tommy hearns, john the beast mugabi, etc,

I mean seriously its ok to like Duran but he was not as good as Marvin hagler

[Brandish]

Duran would beat the hell out of mosely,, his reign at 154 was a gift,

Duran didn't beat the hell out of anybody, Shane Mosley is not Davy Moore or Iran Barkley

Duran top 30-40 at best considering be didn't dominate any weight class outside of 135.

[LacedUp]

Shane dominated 135 with 12 title defenses and win titles at 147 and 154, if I gave Duran top 30-40 Shane us definitely top 50 considering they had similar careers

Shane had a good LW career - he's a top 20 LW in my book. Duran is arguably #1 - Number of defenses doesn't matter. It's who you fought. He was the first to really beat ODLH and he gets probs for that, decent 147 career. But he's not top 50 ATG.

Next you'll tell me Sven Ottke is greater than Andre Ward.

[Brandish]

You criticized his number of defenses - so I'm asking you, who should have defended against that would have made him higher in your estimation? Instead of moving from 108 to 154 or whatever it was, he should have stuck around and defended against guys nobody cared about?

How can you have Floyd #3 on your ATG list and at the same time have Pacquiao between 70-80 and have Mosley higher than Pacquaio?

that literally doesn't make any sense.

Pacquiao is a top 50 ATG. No question.

Based on your criteria I'm surprised you don't gave PAC as number one ATG.

How many title defenses I'll tell you 6 that's it and to be considered up there you need to have a dominant resume IR exceptional skill set. PAC does not have either.