Does boxing have more hater 'fans' than any other sport?

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  • PRchamp
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    #41
    Anybody has the right to hate because let's be serious the sport of Boxing can be so much better but we've gotten use to mediocre PPV cards,main events, horrible judging, robberies, PED use and mismatches that we just have to accept the crap they give us.

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    • PainfromUkraine
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      #42
      Originally posted by PRchamp
      Anybody has the right to hate because let's be serious the sport of Boxing can be so much better but we've gotten use to mediocre PPV cards,main events, horrible judging, robberies, PED use and mismatches that we just have to accept the crap they give us.
      Hating and giving genuine criticism which is constructive or reasonable and genuine debate are vastly different things. And the things you mentioned, what has that got to do with hating? Sure, we can criticise a lot of things in this sport cos its far from perfect. But the thing which makes the sport, the real heart of it, are the fighters. And unjust hate, often borne out of things which are not even boxing related but down to things like personal feelings, is not right and not welcome in the sport, IMO.

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      • PRchamp
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        #43
        Originally posted by PainfromUkraine
        Hating and giving genuine criticism which is constructive or reasonable and genuine debate are vastly different things. And the things you mentioned, what has that got to do with hating? Sure, we can criticise a lot of things in this sport cos its far from perfect. But the thing which makes the sport, the real heart of it, are the fighters. And unjust hate, often borne out of things which are not even boxing related but down to things like personal feelings, is not right and not welcome in the sport, IMO.
        I guess we have a different view on what hating means. I am talking about real hate when a person saids " I ****ing hate Mayweather and I hope he dies" or "If I see Pacquiao I would want to stab him with a rusty knife". The hate I'm talking is more of the jealously or frustration leading for one to criticise, pout or cry. Your right if a fan have really bad ill will for fighters then it's pretty sad.

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        • toooooool
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          #44
          Yes

          The problem is most people have played other sports but have never boxed.
          They don't understand that boxing requires more attributes than any other
          sport,and once people box and become exhausted in under a minute,they
          start to appreciate!I have seen this first hand!

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          • PainfromUkraine
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            #45
            Originally posted by toooooool
            The problem is most people have played other sports but have never boxed.
            They don't understand that boxing requires more attributes than any other
            sport,and once people box and become exhausted in under a minute,they
            start to appreciate!I have seen this first hand!
            Truth.

            Originally posted by PRchamp
            I guess we have a different view on what hating means. I am talking about real hate when a person saids " I ****ing hate Mayweather and I hope he dies" or "If I see Pacquiao I would want to stab him with a rusty knife". The hate I'm talking is more of the jealously or frustration leading for one to criticise, pout or cry. Your right if a fan have really bad ill will for fighters then it's pretty sad.
            Aren't the two different? I am just talking about fighters that get put down or hated on just cos a group or individual doesn't like the fighter, not for fighting reasons, or for example tries to nullify their accomplishments and stuff like that. Or unwarranted criticism, take today's fight for example - GGG stopped a guy that was never stopped before, put in a relaxed performance but due to small reasons or opinions many fans on here have moved from viewing him as a beast capable of beating all the top dogs he could face to now being schooled by most of them? That's just a quick example but you get what I mean.

            I haven't really seen instances of hate where you want to cause real harm to a boxer...it's just a lack of respect I'm talking about or trying to find flaws where they don't necessarily exist.

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            • Dean_Razorback
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              #46
              Originally posted by CASA DE COMBATE
              I agree

              Theres been stadium size brawls in soccer, theyre known as barras, hooligans ect.
              Boxing has its shares of foolishness but soccer takes it and its not even close.
              exactly, can you imagine your a public disgusted with the course of a fight starting a riot? well, that tends to happen in football normally. if we talk about real hate, football has way worse fans than any other sports.

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              • PainfromUkraine
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
                exactly, can you imagine your a public disgusted with the course of a fight starting a riot? well, that tends to happen in football normally. if we talk about real hate, football has way worse fans than any other sports.
                Come on, that is an EXTREME exaggeration. Such events are fairly rare and localised in locales with history of such things. GENERALLY, this never happens in let's say the Western world. Also, as I have mentioned before, this 'hate' is not a hate like wishing death on fighters and stuff like that, just things like unwarranted criticism for the sake of 'hating', not respecting fighters and things like that.

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                • Grimgash
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PainfromUkraine
                  ^ as title, the hate of some fans levelled as 'criticism' to some fighters with no real justification gets pretty ******...

                  Can any other sport compare to the amount of haters we have in the 'community' of boxing enthusiasts?

                  Is anyone immune from hate? What is the criteria to keep everyone happy, all of the time (if this exists)?

                  Discuss
                  The top guys in every sport will have haters. Lebron is hated, Jordan was hated, Kobe is hated. Then football name a top guy not named Manning that isn't hated. Baseball is the same way.....hell put it this way, anytime someone is successful in anything....they're hated on. It's the nature of humans to put down what someone accomplished because you yourself couldn't. Business, Sports, Music, Acting....the list goes on.

                  TL;DR Haters are everywhere.

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                  • Derranged
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                    The scandals are real. It's just that there's so many of them that the GOP can't focus on one and are ineffective in getting answers.
                    Yea, like the time Mayweather failed three drug tests, despite there's absolutely no proof other than word of mouth from a sports writer who doesn't like him.

                    Right........

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                    • mrjax
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                      #50
                      I know!

                      Originally posted by Slip Stream
                      The "scandals" are not real friend, they have zero evidence connecting the president to anything or any intentional wrongdoing on his part. The only connection there is seems to be in the minds of the GOP who are determined to deny President ***** any significant victory even at the risk of sinking the country.

                      The GOP are ineffective at getting answers because there's nothing else to provide. If there was some small bit of evidence they could hang their hats on they would. So in the absence of that they make **** up and lie on a daily basis. Its ultimately a losing strategy as the re-election of Barack ***** proved, but more than that the GOP consists of graying white dinosaurs that are going extinct even as you and I are in a dialogue. Look at their presidential conventions, mostly white and old. Think about the GOP these days, its about white resentment and grievance.

                      They hate what ***** represents but what the president represents isn't ever going to change and they know that. So in the end, blind hatred is all some people will ever have.



                      How can it be said of ********s, give specific examples please.
                      Well that is an easy one. ********s claim the **********s have a "war on women". There are plenty of ********s that scream racism whenever someone disagrees with them. Claiming 9/11 was an inside job. Ignoring the real problem with guns, which are inner city gangs, and making it about those folk who cling to guns and religion. The price of oil was blamed on the oilman in the White House. Voting for a war before voting against it and then claiming they didn't read the actual laws associated with it.

                      How about the biggest ******** failure, which is in the current financial crisis, our beloved Commander in Chief is having such a difficult time finding anyone to prosecute for the economy taking a dump?

                      Why hasn't ***** shut down the NSA spying? It isn't enough to say it started under Bush, it was wrong when Bush did it and it is wrong when ***** administration does it.

                      If the country is so against the **********s, why did ***** win by such a narrow margin?

                      This is a good metaphor for why there is so much hate in boxing. So many fans are so biased that they are blind to the reality.

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