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  • GRUSTLER
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    #161
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    which one?
    Didn't he say that he wasn't interested in fighting Quillin? May be difficult to do because of promoters, networks, etc..... But I don't see a wrecking machine but rather winning fights he is supposed to win.

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    • HeroBando
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      #162
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
      Didn't he say that he wasn't interested in fighting Quillin? May be difficult to do because of promoters, networks, etc..... But I don't see a wrecking machine but rather winning fights he is supposed to win.
      No, totally wrong, Quillin's been making excuses since before GBP got banished from HBO.

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        #163
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        Didn't he say that he wasn't interested in fighting Quillin? May be difficult to do because of promoters, networks, etc..... But I don't see a wrecking machine but rather winning fights he is supposed to win.
        I think your reaching tbh. Quillin is on record as saying GGG doesn't bring in enough money (i.e. I don't want to fight him) Agree that it would be cool to see him against martinez/quillin/murray/sturm/geale
        but GGG is not the one avoiding these fights and hopefully some of them will happen this year

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          #164
          Originally posted by Grimgash
          GGG's promoter was calling out Ward saying he was scared. Ward said okay let's do it. The tune changed to know were good we have things to do at 160. GGG brought it on himself, saying everyone was scared and ducking him....then people say let's fight and the tune changes. Should GGG fight Ward? No he'd get beat pretty badly, but don't say anyone from 154-168 can get it than say hey just kidding when someone wants to give it to you. Especially when you keep fighting sub-par opponents one after another. He's incredibly talented so far at this level, but he has to fight better guys to prove he's the truth, it happens with all prospects..even tho him and Ward fought in the same olympics, and Ward's solidified himself at 168 and as a P4P. Meanwhile GGG is fighting the Adamas of the world.

          TL;DR GGG brought this on himself.
          I missed that - you got a source?

          Far as I know (and I try to follow these things) neither party has ever called the other out - the pot's just been stirred by various journos and columnists suggesting the fight should be made.

          I'm genuinely curious as to when either Loeffler or Sanchez said Ward was scared, and I know GGG sure as hell never said it (in fact he seemed genuinely impressed when meeting 'Dre - called him the best SMW in the world).

          Sources?...references?

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            #165
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            No, totally wrong, Quillin's been making excuses since before GBP got banished from HBO.
            Perhaps but Golovkin shared the same sentiments. Instead of labeling him a ducker I'm more intrigued to see him fight a fight that matters.

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              #166
              Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
              I missed that - you got a source?

              Far as I know (and I try to follow these things) neither party has ever called the other out - the pot's just been stirred by various journos and columnists suggesting the fight should be made.

              I'm genuinely curious as to when either Loeffler or Sanchez said Ward was scared, and I know GGG sure as hell never said it (in fact he seemed genuinely impressed when meeting 'Dre - called him the best SMW in the world).

              Sources?...references?
              Andre Ward would do to Golovkin what Froch did to Bute mentally.

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                #167
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Perhaps but Golovkin shared the same sentiments. Instead of labeling him a ducker I'm more intrigued to see him fight a fight that matters.
                How so? One guy wants the fight and made offers to the other guy, who came up with multiple excuses every couple of months.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  Andre Ward would do to Golovkin what Froch did to Bute mentally.
                  Ward might very well beat Golovkin...I think it unlikely that he'd stop him however - your speculation is quite imaginative though. Why would you think that?

                  Anyways, whether Ward would beat GGG or not has little to do with the question I was asking which was when or where any of GGGs team said Ward was scared or ducking in any way - perhaps you could provide refrences since you appear interested?
                  Last edited by Citizen Koba; 02-02-2014, 06:38 AM.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    Ward might very well beat Golovkin...I think it unlikely that he'd stop him however - your speculation is quite imaginative though. Why would you think that?

                    Anyways, whether Ward would beat GGG or not has little to do with the question I was asking which was when or where any of GGGs team said Ward was scared or ducking in any way - perhaps you could provide refrences since you appear interested?
                    I never said that they did say it. I dug up some articles from Ward saying Golovkin and his peoples were scared:

                    By Bill "Two Scoops" Emes

                    WBA super middleweight champion Andre Ward (27-0, 14KOs) is ready to face Gennady Golovkin (28-0, 25KOs), the WBA/IBO champion at 160-pounds, at any time. But makes it clear that Golovkin and his team are in no hurry to step in the ring with him. Golovkin returns to action this coming Saturday night in Monaco, against Osumanu Adama (22-3, 16KOs).

                    Ward takes issue with Golovkin's promoted reputation of "willing to fight anyone" - when his team is not willing to match them any time soon. Additionally, Ward is confused by recent quote where Golovkin's promoter claimed their fighter was the bigger star.

                    "I don't really know how to feel about that fight. From a business standpoint of course [we can do it]. If he continues to win, and if I continue to win - a year from now it's a bigger fight. I have no problem with that, but what I do have a problem with is when you build your reputation as being this fearless guy from 160 to 175 - but then backtrack and say 'oh it's about the business and we're going to wait.' I just don't understand that, it doesn't add up. And his promoter saying that he's a bigger star...I'm just scratching my head about that stuff. It is what it is. I'm not chasing anybody. I think I've earned the right to fight the biggest and the best fights and that's what we're in the process of doing," Ward told BoxingScene.com.

                    Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...#ixzz2sAfncpS5
                    Seems like Golovkin and his peoples don't want none of Ward but they are willing to drop down to 154 to face Mayweather? I would like to see what Golovkin is really made of at 160 first before saying everyone is ducking him.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Grimgash
                      GGG's promoter was calling out Ward saying he was scared. Ward said okay let's do it. The tune changed to know were good we have things to do at 160. GGG brought it on himself, saying everyone was scared and ducking him....then people say let's fight and the tune changes. Should GGG fight Ward? No he'd get beat pretty badly, but don't say anyone from 154-168 can get it than say hey just kidding when someone wants to give it to you. Especially when you keep fighting sub-par opponents one after another. He's incredibly talented so far at this level, but he has to fight better guys to prove he's the truth, it happens with all prospects..even tho him and Ward fought in the same olympics, and Ward's solidified himself at 168 and as a P4P. Meanwhile GGG is fighting the Adamas of the world.

                      TL;DR GGG brought this on himself.
                      Well ward can say what he wants, but hbo has the final say. In one of fat dan's chats he talked to hbo about ggg, and they said his team hasn't had a problem with any of opponents they have suggested. I doubt hbo is willing to make ward ggg when ggg still needs to clean out his division. I hate to use arums words but the fight needs to marinate.

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