This is exactly why Arum is a cancer and needs to retire!

[BigZigga]

Arum is right, BUT the reason casual fans don't care about the undercard is because promoters have been putting together **** cards for years! They have conditioned the average person to not care, and that's exactly what they want. They want to only have to put up money for one big fight and be able to have a small budget for the rest of the card. It's a business, after all. I saw Floyd-Canelo at a movie theater....it was absolutely packed when I got there just before 6. Fans came to see a compelling undercard. That's the difference between TR and GBP. No one would come to a TR show that early.

[New England]

Arum is right, BUT the reason casual fans don't care about the undercard is because promoters have been putting together **** cards for years! They have conditioned the average person to not care, and that's exactly what they want. They want to only have to put up money for one big fight be able to have a small budget for the rest of the card. It's a business, after all. I saw Floyd-Canelo at a movie theater....it was absolutely packed when I got there just before 6. Fans came to see a compelling undercard. That's the difference between TR and GBP. No one would come to a TR show that early.

the only thing they'd really care about would be slugfests. good matchups these days are rarely slugfests. casuals don't and will never know who the guys outside of the main event are.


i was at mayweather - canelo. other than matthysse - garcia, the undercard ******.

[Weebler I]

He***39;s 100% wrong. And his PPV numbers show it. "@ICUH8N23: What are your thoughts on Arum saying 90% of fans don***39;t care about undercards?"

— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) January 31, 2014

Obviously the product of expert market research "@badlefthook: @BobArum says PPV undercards don***39;t matter: 90% of fans don***39;t care @HBOboxing

— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) January 31, 2014

[The Big Dunn]

the only thing they'd really care about would be slugfests. good matchups these days are rarely slugfests. casuals don't and will never know who the guys outside of the main event are.


i was at mayweather - canelo. other than matthysse - garcia, the undercard ******.

True. at my fight parties a couple of us watch the whole card and a couple will watch the semi main if we tell them the fight will be good.

the rest are females and rico suave ass cats there to talk to each other, eat and get ****ed up and watch the main event.

[JmH Reborn]

I like to apply the Pareto Principle in all aspects life

In short, 80% of revenues come from 20% of your customers, so applying this to the sport of boxing, 80% of your future stars will come from 20% of your buying public. Highlight your best fighters on these PPVs and get your 20% excited about them, the hardcore and they'll be the next face of a PPV.

If we are being real, who was the last honest to goodness ppv star that Arum farm raised? Probably Miguel Cotto. Pacman was already a hot commodity who was fortunate enough to get a DLH golden ticket

So I call bs on this

[BigZigga]

the only thing they'd really care about would be slugfests. good matchups these days are rarely slugfests. casuals don't and will never know who the guys outside of the main event are.


i was at mayweather - canelo. other than matthysse - garcia, the undercard ******.

Good point
Then again, I don't think anyone expected Oscar-Floyd or Floyd-Canelo to be slugfests. I agree that most fans just want to see brawls, but some of the highest grossing fights out there were never really expected to be all-out slugfests.

Yeah the Molina fight was terrible, but on paper you had 3 title fights on the same card and one fight that looked fairly interesting. Casuals showed up early. I just think that if you put on good fights, people will start paying more attention to the undercard, and that's shown already.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Arum may be right in that the headliner makes the card and sells the PPV but thank god for what the UFC model has and will do for boxing.

I think we are seeing more and more stacked cards because of the way the UFC has set out the standard for PPV cards. Boxing fans are now in the same mindset that we want to see full, exciting cards.

Arum is a cancer to the sport and he represents the old guard and the way things were done before. He will be gone soon and hopefully the real fights we want to see will be made.

[jas]

I watch the whole card.

[New England]

Good point
Then again, I don't think anyone expected Oscar-Floyd or Floyd-Canelo to be slugfests. I agree that most fans just want to see brawls, but some of the highest grossing fights out there were never really expected to be all-out slugfests.

Yeah the Molina fight was terrible, but on paper you had 3 title fights on the same card and one fight that looked fairly interesting. Casuals showed up early. I just think that if you put on good fights, people will start paying more attention to the undercard, and that's shown already.

i was only talking about the undercard when i mentioned slugfests. if you filled the undercards with anonymous slugfests they'd be appreciated more than good fighters boxing.

names sell ppvs, not styles.

[Shad0wB0xer]

Bob is right. Every live boxing event I have been to looks like a ghost town until the main event starts. Whenever I throw a PPV fight party, everyone socializes through the undercards and only pay attention to the main event.