Before you call any boxer a quitter........

[Doctor_Tenma]

I only throw insults when they are justified. I am accusing you of not knowing what the **** you are talking about. A man, who just ate a huge shot on a previously broken jaw, sits on his knees while he is counted out. You're like the villagers in The Holy Grail running around claiming that you've caught a witch. Instead of the witch you have Ortiz being carried high upon your hand to the stake and you're yelling fraud, ***** etc and you really want to burn him. How do you know that Ortiz is a fraud.......... because he has a mole?

Have you any clue as to what damage a 8 ounce glove can inflict? Have you ever been dropped by a clean shot like that with an 8 ounce glove? Do you know the damage and clarity of Ortiz' mind in that short span of 10 seconds while he was being counted out. Do you? You don't KNOW **** and are simply speculating.

Prove me wrong......... Rockin'

Unwilling to answer, I'll move on.

[Rockin']

Unwilling to answer, I'll move on.

as you should have from the time that you entered this thread................ Rockin'

[bojangles1987]

LOL.

Let me guess, you still think Victor Ortiz can "get his head right" and come back?

[I Love Jesus!]

Please lace up the gloves and step in the ring and get a few bouts under your belt.


This site is filled nerdy ass cyberspace geeks who work a 9 to 5 and get on here on their spare time to criticize boxers who actually have the balls to step in the ring.

actually a lot of guys on here boxed including myself. what basis do you have for saying the site is full of guys who never boxed?

[luke1979]

actually a lot of guys on here boxed including myself. what basis do you have for saying the site is full of guys who never boxed?

On the basis that most if not all guys who have boxed would not think or say that kind of horse manure nor would the people they trained with. At least from where I come from. Although I can only speak for myself I never heard the kinda nonsense I read hear constantly in a boxing gym. And I'm old. And I've been going since I was 8.
On what basis do you know that alot of guys on here boxed or at least the one's who say stuff like "he's afraid of him... he's ducking him... he quit etc?
How many boxers from your gym say ****e like the stuff on here?

[bojangles1987]

TS calls fighters frauds. Why is that okay but acknowledging when a fighter quits is wrong? Calling someone a fraud is worse than saying they quit.

[Deevel916]

In my opinion he quit. I come to that conclusion because after eating that hook he was fully conscious enough to try and avoid the 2 punches following the hook that hurt him and in less than a minute after being counted out he walked over to collazo and was all smiles while congratulating him. He didn't even attempt to rise while on his knee. Add to that the fact that he's quit before and it's hard to think otherwise.

[#1Assassin]

Every fighter deserves respect, especially at this level. 99% of the people on this forum would literally s.hit their pants and menstruate all over the ring if they took that punch. More importantly they dont have the balls to get in the ring and risk getting hit to begin with.

That said heart is a big part of what makes a fighter and compared to the elite fighters out there ortiz lacks it severely. Its no different than bringing up a fighters lack of handspeed or headmovement.

Bottom line you cant pretend ortiz has world class toughness because thats just not the case. But unless you achieved more than he has you still have no right to dissrespect him either. He might not be tough compared to all these guys who knocked him out but he is still tougher than some random e-warrior. At least until you posers get in the ring yourselves and prove otherwise.

[Adamjr91]

I'm sorry if this upsets anyone but Ortiz quit. This fight wasn't a mismatch. This fight wasn't some hot prospect (Collazo) against a journeyman (Ortiz). This fight was however two evenly matched, world class fighters and one didn't want anymore of it after he got knocked down.

Now compare Ortiz to the average man and you couldn't class him as a quitter but compare him to the likes of Arthur Abraham or Ricky Burns (two fighters that I don't really like) and Oritz is a straight up quitter (and serial headbutter).

[Shogunofharlem1]

I find it hilarious that these threads always come out after an Ortiz fight

So true. See a thread about quitting you know ortiz must have fought recently lol