Manny Pacquiao Vs Timothy Bradley 2 & Undercards Master Discussion Thread

[MisterHardtop]

How will it end? This time....

This fight deserves to be discussed more. So much of the media and the fans are concentrating on who may or may not be Floyd Mayweather's next opponent but we have the best fight out there announced and it seems to be flying under the radar.

I think this will be a much better fight than the first bout, with Pacquiao slowing down just enough to be mortal and Bradley improving just enough to be able to catch the philipino warrior more often. If Manny comes out fast and aggressive as he did against Cotto, this could be a terrific contest, maybe a stoppage victory?

I voted for a decision win as I just don't see anyone south of 154 knocking Bradley out.

[darius45]

I agree, this fight is much more interesting than whatever cherry pick Floyd chooses... We already know Floyd is gonna box circles around whoever he chooses... But I have a feeling Bradley might give Manny a little more trouble this time(he still won't win, imo though)... Both Manny and Bradley seem like great guys outside of the ring too

[ADP02]

IMO the judges did a good job in this fight..So I hope for similar judging..I think a lot of peoples perception going into the fight was if Bradley don't beat the hell out of Pac he losses..Which is not fair at all..I still don't think Bradley can beat the hell out of Pac..Pac is too good a fighter..That's not the rules tho..If you can out point ya opponent..You should win..Compubox was already proving a joke..Bradley through more punches then Pac,I believe he outpointed him..

It's not like you had wide scores all over..You had a fight in which rds were hard to score..You also had fair judging cause every close rd did not go to the Champ..There were a lot of close rds..Close rds in which at different times the judges seen a different winner of certain rds...I hold firm that the only clear rds Pac won..Were from 4-6..Outside of that,all the other rds were close..I also hold firm that rds 10-12 were clear Bradley rds..So that leaves a lot of rds open to interpretation..If you look to how the judges scored the rds it shows there was no bias from them(imo)..

I hope for fair judging,which I felt the last fight had..They did not let perception effect the way the scored the fight..They scored that fight by the rules of boxing,not what the crowd noise dictated to them,or a d1ck rider on a TV said..Bradley does not have to beat Pac up badly..He just has to out point him..Which imo he did..With an injury none the less..

Well you just said that Manny won clearly rounds 4-6. Well, the judges didn't see it that way as 2 judges gave round #5 to Bradley. Even rounds 10-12 some judges disagreed with what you said (not a sweep).

The judges only had 3 rounds where they were all in agreement that Bradley won. 2 of those were the late rounds where Manny was coasting because he thought he had this one in the bag.

Sorry but the judges had an off night.



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[Rome-By-Ko]

Well you just said that Manny won clearly rounds 4-6. Well, the judges didn't see it that way as 2 judges gave round #5 to Bradley. Even rounds 10-12 some judges disagreed with what you said (not a sweep).

The judges only had 3 rounds where they were all in agreement that Bradley won. 2 of those were the late rounds where Manny was coasting because he thought he had this one in the bag.

Sorry but the judges had an off night.



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Bro Imo Bradley won rds 10-12 and Pac clearly won rds 4-6.. The keyword was my opinion..Yes I agree, with the judges tho a lot of close rds..I disagree with you tho, the judges did a very good job, and was fair with how they scored the fight..

I have Manny rds 4-8 on my card, the judges did not.. That means nothing tho.. except it was a close fight..

[ADP02]

Bro Imo Bradley won rds 10-12 and Pac clearly won rds 4-6.. The keyword was my opinion..Yes I agree, with the judges tho a lot of close rds..I disagree with you tho, the judges did a very good job, and was fair with how they scored the fight..

I have Manny rds 4-8 on my card, the judges did not.. That means nothing tho.. except it was a close fight..

The point was that you also agreed like most of us that Manny clearly won those rounds but the judges didn't see it that way. The point is that if the judges can't get the CLEAR rounds right then imagine those rounds where we needed a judge that was on his or her A game?


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[Rome-By-Ko]

The point was that you also agreed like most of us that Manny clearly won those rounds but the judges didn't see it that way. The point is that if the judges can't get the CLEAR rounds right then imagine those rounds where we needed a judge that was on his or her A game?


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What about timothy clear rds he won?It's not that they were not on their A game.. They just seen it different then me or you did..Btw who gave Bradley a Rd from 4-6??

[ADP02]

What about timothy clear rds he won?It's not that they were not on their A game.. They just seen it different then me or you did..Btw who gave Bradley a Rd from 4-6??

Reason is everyone agreed they were clear rounds, HBO, you, me and many many others. So why did the judges see it differently? In that case it was C.J Ross and Ford. That is, one can say a close round may be different but not a clear round. Not hard to understand.

[ADP02]

Here is another one as well..

I agree with Dwyer that Bradley should do better considering that Bradley was injured .... plus he has momentum, beat Marquez clearly and had the chance to analyze his first fight with Manny which is invaluable experience gained. of course, we will only see if he used it to get some advantage for his April fight with Manny.

What I disagree is his analysis of the first fight.

at 7:30 min mark
MISTAKE #1: Dwyer said to mute out the volume but you shouldn't do that because then you will not hear the thumping blows by Manny compared to the pity-pat shots by Bradley. Point #2 below points to why Bradley threw relatively weak punches.

at 7:30 min mark after above comments
MISTAKE #2: Dwyer admitted that Bradley had sprained ligaments (FACT) in the 2nd round and therefore Bradley couldn't push off for the rest of the fight. So if you take that into consideration when Bradley hits Manny, which was rare, his punches had nothing on them. So you can't give Bradley as much credit on his weak connects compared to Manny's superior shots.

at 17:40 min mark
MISTAKE #3: Dwyer says that Max Kellerman says he is not sure who won round #1 but does he say that Max was fuming that the judges had Bradley as the winner? In other words, Max had Manny as the clear winner.

[MisterHardtop]

The judges did not have an off night as some have suggested, there was quite clearly something else happening. I've never been fond of conspiracy theories in boxing and they often annoy me but the fact is that there is no way any judge, bad night or not, could have seen that fight for Bradley. Promoter's have often tried to use their biggest names to build new stars and maybe this was Arum's way of creating a Bradley shaped star, it obviously didn't work.

[PEPE213]

Pacquiao doesn't necessarily need to knock Bradley out, though I hope he does just clear any doubt as to who the best fighter is out of the two, he merely needs to outwork him. Bradley doesn't seem to have the right tools to beat Manny but Manny does have the tools to beat him which are: movement, angles and hand speed. I forget when Roy Jones said it but he made a great point that the way to beat Bradley is to out hustle him and not many can do that with the exception of Manny Pacquiao. This should be a great fight!!!!