Manny Pacquiao Vs Timothy Bradley 2 & Undercards Master Discussion Thread

[sugarsmosley]

Bradley could still be damaged goods from the ruslan beating. He never let JMM touch his chin, and made JMM be the agressor. even in that, the fight was still close. Bradley was edging the rounds with his jab

[Rome-By-Ko]

I agree with Dwyer that Bradley should do better considering that Bradley was injured .... plus he has momentum, beat Marquez clearly and had the chance to analyze his first fight with Manny which is invaluable experience gained. of course, we will only see if he used it to get some advantage for his April fight with Manny.

What I disagree is his analysis of the first fight.

at 7:30 min mark
MISTAKE #1: Dwyer said to mute out the volume but you shouldn't do that because then you will not hear the thumping blows by Manny compared to the pity-pat shots by Bradley. Point #2 below points to why Bradley threw relatively weak punches.

at 7:30 min mark after above comments
MISTAKE #2: Dwyer admitted that Bradley had sprained ligaments (FACT) in the 2nd round and therefore Bradley couldn't push off for the rest of the fight. So if you take that into consideration when Bradley hits Manny, which was rare, his punches had nothing on them. So you can't give Bradley as much credit on his weak connects compared to Manny's superior shots.

at 17:40 min mark
MISTAKE #3: Dwyer says that Max Kellerman says he is not sure who won round #1 but does he say that Max was fuming that the judges had Bradley as the winner? In other words, Max had Manny as the clear winner.

To your first point(on the Dwyer clip),Pac did not hurt or stun Bradley in the first..By what I saw he was controlled and outworked in the first..There were no real fight altering shots landed in the rd..Pac came on late in the rd,but imo it was not enough..The commentating was bad from start to finish that night..Maybe that's why Dwyer is saying watch the first two rd on mute..So you can just look for what he saying..Which was,Bradley outworked and controlled Pac with his jab in the first two rds..

To your 2nd point..You have to score a landing blow,which Bradley did land and get no credit by commentating(Another reason he may suggest some watch it on mute)..Pac(as watching tape back has shown)was not landing as much as you may think..Put it like this,if I'm to use your logic..Bradley was clean after the fight,his only injury was not as to result of a punch..Meanwhile,Pac face was marked up and he was the only one damaged by punches(busted mouth)..All I'm saying is(and I believe Dywer is also trying to say)is that this was a close fight..Rematch should be a hell of a fight..

To your third point,boxing is subjective..Max can have any position he wants..Don't mean I have to agree with it..BTW,Max even mentioning he is not sure..Means that it was not clear that he thought Pac won the rd..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Reason is everyone agreed they were clear rounds, HBO, you, me and many many others. So why did the judges see it differently? In that case it was C.J Ross and Ford. That is, one can say a close round may be different but not a clear round. Not hard to understand.

They both gave rd 5 to Bradley..Which I scored for Pac,I want you to go re-watch that rd right now..With an un-bias eye,and tell me if you think that rd was close or not..

[mathed]

Pac won't win, he reached a deal with Arum in order for him to be released from TR. He can leave TR to go for the Mayweather fight but only with an additional loss on his record. Bradley gains more fans with every single fight....every single PPV....Arum is building that star.

[ColdBlooded]

Pac won't win, he reached a deal with Arum in order for him to be released from TR. He can leave TR to go for the Mayweather fight but only with an additional loss on his record. Bradley gains more fans with every single fight....every single PPV....Arum is building that star.

What makes you think Pacquiao won't resign?

[olio626]

Pacquiao by KO. But if Bradley's jaw holds up, Pacquiao by UD - but I see Bradley falling say 1-3 times.

[The Problem Child]

I think this is the only major PPV fight of the year where one of the fighters will go into it without the least bit of nervousness. Pacquiao will be smiling all the way thru this ass beating, he already did it once so the confidence will be there. Bradley will get stomped into that dark little place again but this time it will be official.

[mathed]

I think this is the only major PPV fight of the year where one of the fighters will go into it without the least bit of nervousness. Pacquiao will be smiling all the way thru this ass beating, he already did it once so the confidence will be there. Bradley will get stomped into that dark little place again but this time it will be official.

He lost once, time to lose again

[Rome-By-Ko]

maybe you shld teach me how to score a fight

Even if I did, you would have your own interpretation of it.. That's why they say boxing is subjective everyone has their own take on it..With in the scoring system of course...

[SUBZER0ED]

Are you referring to the fight that Pac lost by SD? Toss in the fact that Pac just declined to re-sign with TR....Pac just signed his exit interview.

OR... maybe Pacquiao is trying to make an in-road to fight Mayweather, or at least remove the TR/Bob Arum excuse that Floyd's been hiding behind.