Manny Pacquiao Vs Timothy Bradley 2 & Undercards Master Discussion Thread

[IronDanHamza]

I respect you as an ATG poster IDH but I gotta disagree with you.

Current lineal champs:

HW: Wladimir Klitschko
LHW: Adonis Stevenson
SMW: Andre Ward
MW: Sergio Martinez
JMW: Floyd Mayweather
JWW: Danny Garcia
JFW: Guillermo Rigondeaux
FLY: Akira Yaegashi

Why can't Lineal Champions be stripped of their status in the boardroom so to speak if:

a) ducks - stevenson not fighting hopkins or kovalev this year. "stay-busy" fights to be looked upon as ones failure to uphold credibility of lineal status.if sergio martinez avoids ggg. mayweather not fighting lara and fighting at 147 instead of 154 where he holds the Lineal Champion status. mayweather should relinquish lineal status at JMW. Bradley vs Pacquaio should be for the Welterweight Lineal Title since Mayweather refuses to do business with their promoter. Bradley vs Marquez was for the lineal title. Lineage resumes from that fight.

b) robberies - garcia getting gift vs herrera

c) inactivity - if ward's promotional issues continue, if rigo is completely blackballed preventing him to secure fights vs legitimate challengers

Bradley-Marquez for the Lineage though. Like, that's a fact.

Neither is Bradley-Pacquaio.

[-MEGA-]

Bradley-Marquez for the Lineage though. Like, that's a fact.

Neither is Bradley-Pacquaio.

Who has the lineage at 147? Mayweather? Who did he beat to get it?
-serious question-

[DeadLikeMe]

Who has the lineage at 147? Mayweather? Who did he beat to get it?
-serious question-

This is The Ring lineage.



Under the other lineal critera he would have vacated in '08 having also won it from Baldomir in '06. Mosley's beatdown of Margarito would have then reestablished Mosley as lineal champ. Then Floyd's subsequent win over Mosley passed it onto him (or it would have been reestablished anyway.)

[IMDAZED]

He won't be though, to be honest.

It's always going to be argued but if Floyd retires undefeated and the #1 P4P fighter in the world while Pacquaio is beneath then a lot of people will consider him greater.

A lot of people will consider him greater anyway, a lot of people won't aswell.

Thank you, oh voice of reason.

[-MEGA-]

This is The Ring lineage.



Under the other lineal critera he would have vacated in '08 having also won it from Baldomir in '06. Mosley's beatdown of Margarito would have then reestablished Mosley as lineal champ. Then Floyd's subsequent win over Mosley passed it onto him (or it would have been reestablished anyway.)

Cool Thanks. I honestly did not know. Hard to imagine Spinks and Judah as lineal champs though...lol

[jas]

This is The Ring lineage.



Under the other lineal critera he would have vacated in '08 having also won it from Baldomir in '06. Mosley's beatdown of Margarito would have then reestablished Mosley as lineal champ. Then Floyd's subsequent win over Mosley passed it onto him (or it would have been reestablished anyway.)

There is no lineal champ at welter

[IMDAZED]

Cool Thanks. I honestly did not know. Hard to imagine Spinks and Judah as lineal champs though...lol

LOL they beat the man that was the man.

[-MEGA-]

Wait a minute...it says FMJ beat Guerrero for the lineage...that don't sound right.

[IronDanHamza]

Who has the lineage at 147? Mayweather? Who did he beat to get it?
-serious question-

Mayweather beat Mosley for it.

A lot of people argue this though. The beauty of Lineages.

CyberBoxingZone who a lot of people go to for Lineage trace have Mayweather beating Mosley for the Lineage.

Like I said though a lot of people argue that.

[IronDanHamza]

Wait a minute...it says FMJ beat Guerrero for the lineage...that don't sound right.

That's The Ring belt. Entirely different. Although often the Lineage and Ring Belts are the same, it's not always.

Mayweather-Guererro was for the Vacant Ring Belt. Not the Vacant Lineage. The Lineage was already held by Floyd and has been since 2010.