How would Hopkins have fared in the 80's?

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  • jas
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    #31
    Even though I'm a fan of bhop, I gotta say sugar Adam ali is destroying everyone .

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #32
      Originally posted by marvelousmatt
      The 80's were a great time at MW,much like now is getting. I think Mccalum and Norris would good chances vs Hopkins too.

      The Beast has all the wrong style for Hopkins who has always had problems with punchers who come at him. Sans Pavlik (who was hammered 2 days before the fight and out of shape) Hopkins doesn't throw enogh to keep the plodders away from him. Taylor's style was all wrong for Hopkins. Mcalum and Norris had that style and Mugabi was appropriately named the beast because of it. His MW reign was impressive but it was a bad MW era.Think Larry Holmes at HW era.I think what B Hop has done at LHW has made him legend more that even his MW reign over mediocre fighters at MW.
      lol tito, pavlik, tarver, etc,,, Hopkins carves up big punching plodders

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      • Larry the boss
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        #33
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        Im not gonna list all 100 guys

        1. SRR
        2. ali
        3. armstrong
        4. SRL
        5. Ezzard
        6. Greb
        7. LAngford
        etc
        etc

        Hagler would be around 15,, ahead of chavez sr, but behind duran

        Hearns would be around 25-35

        Hopkins would be 70-90, somewhere with benitez
        you posted 7 damn names man,this proves nothing and does not make any point at all

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        • marvelousmatt
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          #34
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          benitez, duran, SRL, Hill,, just to name a few
          The Motor City Hitman's resume is just sic.He has some sweet wins over ATG's and the robbery vs SRLII.

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          • marvelousmatt
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            #35
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
            lol tito, pavlik, tarver, etc,,, Hopkins carves up big punching plodders
            Tarver is a stiff/journeyman level.

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #36
              Originally posted by LarryXXX
              you posted 7 damn names man,this proves nothing and does not make any point at all
              Dammit beavis im not going to waste everyone's time putting up some damn list for you,, but

              8. louis
              9. duran
              10. pernell
              11. pep
              12. moore
              13. Hagler
              14. Leonard
              15. Monzon
              16. chavez
              17. Roy
              18. ike
              19. Spinks
              20. manny
              21. hearns
              22. johnson
              23. floyd
              24. zarate
              25. ortiz


              And i know its my list so its just opinion but look at any list you want, hagler is always top 25, hearns always top 35,, hopkins is usually between 45-80

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                #37
                Originally posted by marvelousmatt
                Tarver is a stiff/journeyman level.
                I dont think he is an ATG, but tarver could crack hard,, just ask roy,,

                Tarver is def not a journeymen level fighter

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                • marvelousmatt
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  lol tito, pavlik, tarver, etc,,, Hopkins carves up big punching plodders
                  Tito was a WW.

                  Pavlik was an alcoholic that moved up to 172 for the 5 million.

                  Tarver is cheating stiff.

                  Who were the plodders with power that he faced?

                  De LA Hoya?
                  Eastmen ?
                  Allen?
                  Hakkar?
                  Daniels?


                  People foget that Don King saved Hopkins career the night that he paid the judges vs Mercado,a plodder that destroyed Hopkins, and was robbed with a B.S. draw, Hopkins was beat that night from pillar to post and down what 4 times. The hand selected ref only counted 2-3 knockdowns if memory serves.

                  Hopkins spent 1999-2005 fighting blown up WW's on his cash tour too.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    I dont think he is an ATG, but tarver could crack hard,, just ask roy,,

                    Tarver is def not a journeymen level fighter
                    All right he is world class at least, you got me there.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      What fighter did he beat that even compares to hearns,,, he may have been a good puncher vs mercado, allen, joe lipsey,,, but lets not act like he was some destroyer,,
                      Tito is tailor made for anyone elite level boxer


                      When was hopkins in the roy fight,, was it after 8 shutout rounds, and roy running around in the 9th to stop and pop a jab on hopkins,, that was about the only highlight of the fight,,,

                      Nothing on hopkins' resume suggests he could outbox hearns for 12 rounds,,


                      Name the guy that outboxed hearns????????
                      As the great manny Steward once said "NOBODY outboxes Tommy Hearns"

                      this thread is kinda funny ... One guy with knowledge schooling a bunch of nsb clowns

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