If Lara can not get the fights he wants at 154, why not move to 160?

[-Kev-]

Isn't Floyd notorious for refusing to weigh-in the day of? Leaving us to take his word for it.

He weighed 149lbs against Baldomir, 150lbs against Ortiz, and 150lbs against Canelo(lost a half pound from the weigh in).

People actually thinking this guy is a MW in the fights he doesn't weigh himself, is far worse than ******ity. It is just some kind of twisted wishful thinking, twisted because of the reason why anti-Floyd fans wish he was heavier on fight night to have some kind of explanation as to why he is so good against heavier opponents.

You guys are all twisted in the head.

[Spray_resistant]

thats a cop out to me. He is bigger than Floyd. Thats what I mean. You penalize this guy for being too good. I guess he shouldve just stayed down in weight and beat up on those guys. Maidana was just 161 against Broner. These guys are bigger than Floyd but yet you say because Floyd has a title then thats the end all. Floyd could beat some paper champ at 168 right now. That dont make him bigger than guys at 154 or 160. Even Garcia said it himself. Garcia before the Canelo fight said that Canelo is really too big for Floyd to be fighting but Floyd will win because he's that good. You cant penalize him for being that good and say that he cant fight another P4P guy who is actually bigger than him.

Besides, no one ever has fought somewhere until they do it. Should no one at MW want to fight Floyd since he's never been there? I thought that was ok?

Its not penalization its being held to the highest standard because you are the best, Floyd and skill talent set the standard and fans want to see how great he really is. As for bigger fighters fighting Floyd no one at 160 has the status Floyd has and is thus not held to such a standard so no, if he wants to challenge himself then props to him for wanting to fight a good legit MW if he does go that route. Danny is unproven above 140 and it would do more for Floyd if he was tested and proven at the new weight before taking on the most elite of the elite.

[I Love Jesus!]

alot of those guys are just as good as the guys people talk about in a p4p sense. The only reason why people think a guy like Canelo can beat Floyd is because he's huge compared to him. If he were the same size or if Floyd had a 20 pound advantage they would call it a mismatch. Thats how all these fights are. That doesnt make it right. In all of other sports you play against guys on the same level. People make threads like Triple G wants to fight Floyd but Floyd would never fight him because he's a scared *****. Meanwhile Triple G is not a ***** for wanting to fight someone 25+ pounds smaller who is in there 5th division while he's in his 1st. Its a joke

why does everyone want to see him fight Pac then? Fact is people want the best to fight the best and mayweathers not into it and neither are his fanboys

[-Kev-]

Well he weigned in on the day of the Ortiz fight and the Canelo fight and he was 150 lbs on both of those.

I don't understand how he could be 148-149lbs against Judah and Baldomir then.."Oh, he didn't weigh himself against Oscar, let's insert a weight for him, he looked 160lbs. Oh no weigh in against Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, let's say he was a Middleweight again." Wait a minute, he's 150lbs vs Ortiz, oh snap, okay, damn, no fight night weight for Cotto, he's a MW again, wait! he's 150lbs vs Canelo.



Seriously, how can some one weigh in whatever YOU want to think, when he doesn't show it, but then when he shows it, he clearly is always around the same weight and has been since 2006.

[Spray_resistant]

I don't understand how he could be 148-149lbs against Judah and Baldomir then.."Oh, he didn't weigh himself against Oscar, let's insert a weight for him, he looked 160lbs. Oh no weigh in against Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, let's say he was a Middleweight again." Wait a minute, he's 150lbs vs Ortiz, oh snap, okay, damn, no fight night weight for Cotto, he's a MW again, wait! he's 150lbs vs Canelo.



Seriously, how can some one weigh in whatever YOU want to think, when he doesn't show it, but then when he shows it, he clearly is always around the same weight and has been since 2006.

And? does that mean he should just keep fighting opponents no one thinks can beat him because he is the same size even when he has proven to be effective against larger opponents in the past?

[daggum]

Thats like people saying that JLC is the way to beat Floyd. Its like Malignaggi says, how long ago was that fight. Do you guys think Floyd hasnt improved? The same stuff that worked back then is not going to be easy to work against him now.

Its the same with the Southpaw stuff. People heard the Southpaw hype back in the day and cant get it out there head. He's looked much better in every single fight against Southpaws. Also, Mitchell didnt land anything on Floyd. If he did its only because Floyd had no respect for him and was just going to walk through him.

Floyd has more power & combo punching then you give him credit for but you arent going to land a ton of combos on a Southpaw. Ive always said there is only 2 ways to beat Floyd. If youre a righty you have no chance unless you are so big that Floyd just cant overcome it. He has mastered his D too much to get beat by a righty unless you are so big & strong like maybe a triple G.

Or you are a southpaw that catches him with a something that either stops him or hurts him for a long time like Forrest did Mosley in their first fight. Thats why guys like Lara, Sergio, Pac will always have the best shot but Floyd is still better then them at everything and you wouldnt think any of the 3 had any kinda chance if they werent Southpaws. Its a huge advantage

his cherry picking has improved. what great prime fighters has he fought since jlc? uh there's canelo? he's great....and.......

no i think he has less power than i give him credit for. he hits guys flush over and over and nothing happens. his combo punching is non existent. he won't even let his hands go against a punchbag like guerrero.

we all saw what judah did to floyd. judah has a legit left hand like lara and pac. all 3 throw it properly and with speed except only 1 of those guys is a mental midget. oh the guy floyd fought of course. judah was landing so easily that floyd changed his entire boxing stance from shoulder roll to high guard. you can't shoulder roll against a guy with a legit left hand and expect not to get hit. the angles just don't work in your favor. you are never going to be able to turn your body as fast as a guy throws a punch. watch james toney vs reggie johnson as well.

floyd's style was crafted to neutralize orthodox fighters not southpaws thatst's why he's not a great fighter. a great fighter can fight any man no matter what stance they have. you fight with your left hand not fair! i would beat you if you were right handed lol! but since you aren't i will never fight you.

[I Love Jesus!]

he is the best in the world and has already proved it. He was a HOF fighter before he even moved up to his 2nd division. No matter how much guys wanna try to discredit that, they cant. There will always be another opponet. You cant go on forever

Not really I mean the biggest thing about his resume is who he didn't fight. After 135 all hes really fought are ok guys or past their best greats. I mean he has Marquez who he cheated on the scales and Canelo who may or may not turn into something but on the whole its pretty "blahhh whatever" Certainly not TBE unless by TBE you mean "The Ballsack Eater" or "The ******** Enterer"

[Kagami Taiga]

And? does that mean he should just keep fighting opponents no one thinks can beat him because he is the same size even when he has proven to be effective against larger opponents in the past?

He should fight ppl available to him. He absolutely should not fight guys that will outweigh him by 20 lbs. That kinda argument is asinine and frankly ******. That's not what boxing is. IDC if it was him or anyone else. That kind of fight proves nothing. Sooner or later, the smaller man will be outgunned. IDC how good you are.

[IronDanHamza]

He is a 140lber never fought any fights as far as I know of at 147 and certain never fought anyone of note at the weight while Floyd is now the lineal 154lb champion, its a soft touch if he fights him before Danny beats at least some notable 147lber and in impressive fashion.

As I said Floyd is the best right? so he has to continuously prove it for as long as he is an active fighter against opponents who fans consider a respectable challenge otherwise he is more of a money making sideshow like a pro wrestler rather than a sportsman.

Garcia's fought more above 140 than he has at 140.

Garcia's is an obvious choice for a Mayweather opponent IMO.

[FeFist]

He had a pretty meaningful fights with Angulo and Trout, and the possibility of a Canelo or Cotto match up. There's also the slim chance of him fighting Mayweather. He'd have to be a fool to leave 154lb.