If Lara can not get the fights he wants at 154, why not move to 160?

[!! Shawn]

Good sized as in what? He is about 3lbs heavier than 147 on fight night, as opposed to the normal 10-15lbs other JWW's-WW's rehydrate. So I don't know what you mean by good sized. You mean great skills, therefore he negates the size disadvantage he has at WW. But good sized WW? No, not at all. May, JMM, Pac are the same size on WW fight nights, Floyd has a 1 and 2 inch height advantage over them respectively, and a considerable reach advantage, which makes people say he is "bigger".

Isn't Floyd notorious for refusing to weigh-in the day of? Leaving us to take his word for it.

[Spray_resistant]

what soft touches. Danny Garcia is P4P. Thats one of the guys you are speaking of, right? That is in no way a soft touch. Now I agree that Khan is if he picks him but the only reason I wont get upset about that fight like others do is because I think it guarantees a huge fight next. I just dont see Showtime signing off on Khan unless Floyd agreed to fight a Pac, or Lara, or Sergio, or something like that next

He is a 140lber never fought any fights as far as I know of at 147 and certain never fought anyone of note at the weight while Floyd is now the lineal 154lb champion, its a soft touch if he fights him before Danny beats at least some notable 147lber and in impressive fashion.

As I said Floyd is the best right? so he has to continuously prove it for as long as he is an active fighter against opponents who fans consider a respectable challenge otherwise he is more of a money making sideshow like a pro wrestler rather than a sportsman.

[radioraheem]

A guy with zero tools to beat Floyd that everyone already knew. Slow footed young fighter drained in weight.

Yeah, and that fighter gave an undefeated Austin Trout the first loss of his career and took his belt as a result. Maybe Canelo is overrated, but let's not discredit him so much to the point where you basically want to say he's garbage.

[DLT]

yes i do. floyd's defense is sh-it against southpaws with good straight lefts. even old bums like mitchell landed with ease on him. add in laras ability to move around the ring and floyd would walk into punches all fight. floyd doesn't have the power or combo punching to trouble lara at all.

Thats like people saying that JLC is the way to beat Floyd. Its like Malignaggi says, how long ago was that fight. Do you guys think Floyd hasnt improved? The same stuff that worked back then is not going to be easy to work against him now.

Its the same with the Southpaw stuff. People heard the Southpaw hype back in the day and cant get it out there head. He's looked much better in every single fight against Southpaws. Also, Mitchell didnt land anything on Floyd. If he did its only because Floyd had no respect for him and was just going to walk through him.

Floyd has more power & combo punching then you give him credit for but you arent going to land a ton of combos on a Southpaw. Ive always said there is only 2 ways to beat Floyd. If youre a righty you have no chance unless you are so big that Floyd just cant overcome it. He has mastered his D too much to get beat by a righty unless you are so big & strong like maybe a triple G.

Or you are a southpaw that catches him with a something that either stops him or hurts him for a long time like Forrest did Mosley in their first fight. Thats why guys like Lara, Sergio, Pac will always have the best shot but Floyd is still better then them at everything and you wouldnt think any of the 3 had any kinda chance if they werent Southpaws. Its a huge advantage

[IronDanHamza]

Isn't Floyd notorious for refusing to weigh-in the day of? Leaving us to take his word for it.

Well he weigned in on the day of the Ortiz fight and the Canelo fight and he was 150 lbs on both of those.

[I Love Jesus!]

WW is his own divison also

Yeah but I didn't complain about him fighting ww guys U complained about him fighting 54 guys

[DLT]

He is a 140lber never fought any fights as far as I know of at 147 and certain never fought anyone of note at the weight while Floyd is now the lineal 154lb champion, its a soft touch if he fights him before Danny beats at least some notable 147lber and in impressive fashion.

As I said Floyd is the best right? so he has to continuously prove it for as long as he is an active fighter against opponents who fans consider a respectable challenge otherwise he is more of a money making sideshow like a pro wrestler rather than a sportsman.

thats a cop out to me. He is bigger than Floyd. Thats what I mean. You penalize this guy for being too good. I guess he shouldve just stayed down in weight and beat up on those guys. Maidana was just 161 against Broner. These guys are bigger than Floyd but yet you say because Floyd has a title then thats the end all. Floyd could beat some paper champ at 168 right now. That dont make him bigger than guys at 154 or 160. Even Garcia said it himself. Garcia before the Canelo fight said that Canelo is really too big for Floyd to be fighting but Floyd will win because he's that good. You cant penalize him for being that good and say that he cant fight another P4P guy who is actually bigger than him.

Besides, no one ever has fought somewhere until they do it. Should no one at MW want to fight Floyd since he's never been there? I thought that was ok?

[DLT]

Yeah but I didn't complain about him fighting ww guys U complained about him fighting 54 guys

yes you did. Are you saying you wouldnt complain if he fought at WW for the rest of his career?

[I Love Jesus!]

Debate involves an open mind. Your mind is not open. Your only goal is to defend Floyd Mayweather Jr. You are by far his most fervent supporter on these boards. You are often even more delusional the Larry in your support for everything Floyd.

You say ****** stuff like "let the guy fight a guy his own size every once in a while!"

You mean like Ricky Hatton, or Robert Guerrero, or Victor Ortiz, or Miguel Cotto, or Juan Manuel Marquez? Yes... let him fight someone his own size every once in a while...

Just accept that Floyd has no interest in fights that are compelling matchups stylistically. He wants to look good every time out, he picks fighters that will make him look good, and kudos to him for doing it. He's built himself a very lucrative career doing so.

That doesn't demean his skill level, but lets stop pretending that there is some other reason that every threatening fight is way out there and unfair to Floyd.

If Floyds "hardcore" (wink wink) fans could except that then they wouldn't be "hardcore" fans

[DLT]

140lb fighter who has a limited skill set against a fighter light Floyd is a soft touch.

Wide looping punches that Floyd can see, give me a break. Life and death every fight of his career, thats Danny Garcia. Props to him for it, but lets not pretend he is some p4p skilled fighter who can remotely trouble Floyd.

you know what is soooo funnny on these boards. As soon as people start talking about Floyd fighting someone like Garcia, the very 1st thing that comes back is "he's a 140 pound fighter". Yet if someone argues that Floyd is only 150 on fight night when it comes to him fighitng guys who are 170 then no one wants to hear it. Garcia is bigger than floyd on fight night but people want to bring up the weight in Garcias defense somehow. Floyd is 20-25 pounds smaller than the other guys people name yet they dont want to hear about the weight in Floyd's defense. I dont get it. Must be pure hate.

Go right now and stand Floyd-Garcia-Lara-Sergio-Triple G beside eachother and watch how they look together and you see how much of a joke this is. The smallest guy of the group would be Floyd and Lara would be much close to the MW's in size than he is to Floyd