Joe Calzaghe moved up and fought the light HW champion - why can't Andre Ward?

[Daddy T]

Freedom you are a better poster than this.

Joe Calzaghe fought at 168 for a whole eternity. Then at 36 finally moved up to 175.

Andre Ward is merely 29 years old and just blew up in late 2009 with his Kessler win. He has 4 years being a top fighter. Calzaghe was a top fighter for about 9-10 years when he fought Hopkins. Terrible comparison.

he generally is but he also is very race sensitive which sometimes results in brain farts like this thread

[IronDanHamza]

Well yeah Ward should move up.

He's pretty much cleaned out 168 although he's done nothing of note for so long that new names are starting to emerge.

[Tom Cruise]

Technically you could say that Ward has already beaten who was lineal light heavyweight champion at the time in Dawson, who is still one of my favorite fighters.

That pretty much makes Ward Lineal champ at 175lb doesn't it IronDanHamza?

[BigZigga]

Another hype train. Ward spanks him.

I think Ward wins but Kovalev gives him the toughest fight of his career

[oc9979]

Freedom you are a better poster than this.

Joe Calzaghe fought at 168 for a whole eternity. Then at 36 finally moved up to 175.

Andre Ward is merely 29 years old and just blew up in late 2009 with his Kessler win. He has 4 years being a top fighter. Calzaghe was a top fighter for about 9-10 years when he fought Hopkins. Terrible comparison.

Some people like to compare apples with oranges. Thank you.

[IronDanHamza]

That pretty much makes Ward Lineal champ at 175lb doesn't it IronDanHamza?

Oh yeah, of course, he's one of many.

At the moment there's Ward, Stevenson, and then Calzaghe and Foster will join then when they back their comebacks.

This is Iron Clad, by the way.

[IronDanHamza]

Technically you could say that Ward has already beaten who was lineal light heavyweight champion at the time in Dawson, who is still one of my favorite fighters.

Technically you could also say he fought him at 168.

So technically you could say that's completely irrelevant.

[soul_survivor]

Cos Ward thinks he is a huge star and every thing should go his way...he doesn't realise he can't draw flies to ****

[Hitman932]

The best thing about Andre Ward as a fighter is the way he makes European posters lose their minds and say ridiculous things that even they don't believe for second.

This thread being case in point having already pointed out what a horrible comparison it is on about 9 different levels.

Kessler and Calzaghe only ****ed around fighting nobodies for 40 fights before they fought someone of the same caliber as themselves.

Just by entering the Super 6 he's taken 10x the risk Calzaghe did in his entire career.

Back to the point of the thread though - the reason this thread is amusing is because Ward will do exactly what TS in demanding he do and he will do it within 12-18 months time at which point he will move on to ripping Andre Ward for something else. Most likely just posting headbutt videos since he would be out of opponents to demand.

Ward's career has been managed brilliantly and at every step of the way they've been told they were doing it wrong - yet proved they knew what they were doing better than anyone who was being critical.

First people said he was being brought along way too slow -- Wrong
Said the S6 was too soon and especially the favorite Kessler in 1st fight -- Wrong
Said Bute was a scrub and he should beat Froch to prove something - Ward was right
Dawson would be too big - too schooled - too left handed for Ward -- Wrong - followed by revisionist excuses!


Now they are just being smart - Ward knows JCC Jr. is the biggest money and easiest fight and doesn't want to play himself out of the sweepstakes by jumping to 175 now.

Likewise GGG will end up offering $$ for a fight at 168 on par or better than any at 175.

Plus clearly - unless you're a moron and intentionally ignore it - Kovalev and Stevenson are on a collision course to unify the 175 belts. There is nothing there for Ward, nor any reason for him to butt into that right now.

It only makes sense for him to sit back and let those two men unify the titles - because Stevenson and Kovalev are a lot like Ward in that they aren't afraid of anyone (regardless of whatever insane thoughts you have about Ward)

When the times comes the winner of Stevenson/Kovalev vs. Andre Ward will be one of the easiest big fights ever made in boxing.

[PurePugilist216]

If you ever saw Bhop and RJJ would you actually say "hey look two 40 year old men"?

What does that have to do with this? If I saw Jeff Lacy I would think he is an animal in the ring. He obviously isn’t