If Sergio Martinez Isn’t Too Big for Miguel Cotto Then Why Is He Too Big for Floyd?

[hugh grant]

that sounds crazy when you are talking about someone who has already fought in 5 classes and is not even close to making the weight in his 5th class. You talk like Floyd is in his 1st division or has never moved up. Sooner or later you have to stop

Floyd has never moved up weight IMO. He just was a late developer and was smalll before now is big and as he naturally grew he naturally said im moving up weight.
Just like my friend used to be smaller than me for most of our young life and now he is like 4 inches taller and 2 stone bigger.

When Floyd has many titles in as many divisions as Pac then Floyd can stop moving up.

[damned1974]

Cotto don't mind giving advantages, he hasn't a zero to protect unlike FLoyd and is braver.

Floyd has to make things as even as possible before taking a fight. He wont let a fighter be 3 divisions bigger than him fight night like Pac did against Margarito.

He wont jump up divisions like Duran did against haggler. That is crazy according to Floyd.

Ummm...actually you are wrong. Most of his opponents outweigh him and there really is no reason for Mayweather to jump up any more weight classes if he cannot make them. What you are asking is unrealistic. BTW-how much did Oscar weigh on fight night? How about Canelo?

Sounds like you would want Mayweather to fight a cruiserweight just to make it an acceptable match up for Floyd.The fact that your expectations for him are so high only makes it seem as a testament to his greatness.

[damned1974]

Floyd has never moved up weight IMO. He just was a late developer and was smalll before now is big and as he naturally grew he naturally said im moving up weight.
Just like my friend used to be smaller than me for most of our young life and now he is like 4 inches taller and 2 stone bigger.

When Floyd has many titles in as many divisions as Pac then Floyd can stop moving up.

That's odd, because he has in fact (not b.s. opinion) moved up in weight several times.
In fact, he is the champion in 2 divisions currently and has defended both of them....while Pac didn't even bother defending his LW or JWW paper champ belts that he got off of such kings like Diaz and an "on his way out" broken Hatton. Hmmmmmm.

[hugh grant]

Ummm...actually you are wrong. Most of his opponents outweigh him and there really is no reason for Mayweather to jump up any more weight classes if he cannot make them. What you are asking is unrealistic. BTW-how much did Oscar weigh on fight night? How about Canelo?

Sounds like you would want Mayweather to fight a cruiserweight just to make it an acceptable match up for Floyd.The fact that your expectations for him are so high only makes it seem as a testament to his greatness.

No its Pac who beats champs in 8 divisions, wins FOTD awards, fights regularly, and p4p fighters at that and people ask why dont he fight Sergio is a testament to Pacs greatness.

The fact that Floyd is a take it easy type of boxer fighting once in a while and coming back with fights with Ortiz and Guerrero which is an indicator of what is really expected of Floyd.
Because he does a two thirds less than Pac the majority of the time, people want Floyd to make up ground and make up for it. Yes, by politely asking why he dont take a challenge that really cant be mistaken for anything other than a challenge?
Moving up to fight proper opponents. Not weight drained Canelos. Against fellow p4p fighters who happen to be bigger or someone who has something like a big punch like GGG or fast and big like Sergio. Not weight drained Canelo who floyd probably hits harder than.

[IronDanHamza]

Ummm...actually you are wrong. Most of his opponents outweigh him and there really is no reason for Mayweather to jump up any more weight classes if he cannot make them. What you are asking is unrealistic. BTW-how much did Oscar weigh on fight night? How about Canelo?

Sounds like you would want Mayweather to fight a cruiserweight just to make it an acceptable match up for Floyd.The fact that your expectations for him are so high only makes it seem as a testament to his greatness.

That's the funniest thing and he doesn't even realise he's doing it.

Floyd's so good that he's moved up 5 divisions but in his mind Floyd's not even moved up once

[fenixbb]

As for Floyd: health comes first at the end of the day.
And for Pacquiao: I am to smaller than him ( except for Margarito )
Funny or sad that everybody accepts Floyds and Pacquaios decision to not fight any threats a threat like Martinez. We all know what could happen. By the way Floyd is taller than Cotto by height.

[damned1974]

That's the funniest thing and he doesn't even realise he's doing it.

Floyd's so good that he's moved up 5 divisions but in his mind Floyd's not even moved up once

I agree. Hate is a crazy thing-it hazes their minds and in turn, they marginalize ANYTHING Floyd has done, and maximize anything Pac has done. If they really think Floyd is this bad, why would they focus ANY attention on him or want the "FOTD" Pac to fight a guy who they think has been "padding" his career.

They accuse Floyd of being cherry-picker supreme, yet if Floyd was half as bad as they imply, wouldn't that make Pac a cherry picker?

[damned1974]

No its Pac who beats champs in 8 divisions, wins FOTD awards, fights regularly, and p4p fighters at that and people ask why dont he fight Sergio is a testament to Pacs greatness.

The fact that Floyd is a take it easy type of boxer fighting once in a while and coming back with fights with Ortiz and Guerrero which is an indicator of what is really expected of Floyd.
Because he does a two thirds less than Pac the majority of the time, people want Floyd to make up ground and make up for it. Yes, by politely asking why he dont take a challenge that really cant be mistaken for anything other than a challenge?
Moving up to fight proper opponents. Not weight drained Canelos. Against fellow p4p fighters who happen to be bigger or someone who has something like a big punch like GGG or fast and big like Sergio. Not weight drained Canelo who floyd probably hits harder than.

I want you to mention the so called great champs that he beat while moving up divisions and where they were in their careers. No doubt he has fought some good fights, but was Diaz, unranked Margarito at "JMW" that you credit him for his 8th division, or even Hatton at his stage-were they the greats you are talking about? Did he defend the paper belts in these divisions????

[YOU WILL LOSE]

the heart of martinez and cotto will always make floyd seem too small!!!!!!!!!

[damned1974]

the heart of martinez and cotto will always make floyd seem too small!!!!!!!!!

Floyd has heart,in fact you wouldn't notice it as much as others like Corrales, because he uses his brains and doesn't need to rely solely on heart.