If Sergio Martinez Isn’t Too Big for Miguel Cotto Then Why Is He Too Big for Floyd?

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  • hugh grant
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    #131
    Sergio isnt too big for Floyd. Hes too good. Floyd don't think he can beat him whereas Cotto does think he can.

    If Floyd thought he could have beat Sergio he would have done it ages ago.

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      #132
      Originally posted by M4RK
      Are you completely ******ed? First, floyd is physically bigger. Second, if someone holds a belt at 154 then they should be compared to others fighting at 154. Thats the weight both fight at...
      Floyd is physically bigger than who? Cotto? You actually believe that?

      As for The second, maybe if you look at it without looking at the reasoning to why he fights above WW. Which is only for big money fights because he's very small for Jr MW. He doesn't "fight at Jr MW" at least not preferably, he's fought there 3 out of 45 fights and 2 times in the last 6 years. His weight is WW and he moves up for big money because he's small for the weight.

      So having a belt at a weight automatically makes you bigger than someone else at a weight or the same size? Surely that's not what being said here.

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        #133
        Originally posted by shade darkar
        you really are something arent you! moaning because 5'8'' cotto is actively trying to sort out a fight with the middleweight champion, whilst 5'8'' mayweather is trying to fight amir khan.

        cotto has consistently fought the best fighters of our era, this is nothing new. he has always had balls and isnt afraid to challenge himself. you are getting your knickers in a twist because floyd doesnt do the same anymore.
        Are there height divisions in Boxing now?

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          #134
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Are there height divisions in Boxing now?
          Well with height you get reach advantages. So Pac is 5ft6 with arms to match his height.

          But I think Floyd has just fought Canelo, yet Floyd is now facing khan or Maidana. So its not onwards and upwards with Floyd is it? Its one step forward, 2 steps back with Floyd. Or a chance to have a another breather.

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            #135
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Are there height divisions in Boxing now?
            Cotto is a very small JMW as well as Floyd. Floyd's just in better shape so he weighs less.

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              #136
              Originally posted by jwheels9876
              Cotto is a very small JMW as well as Floyd. Floyd's just in better shape so he weighs less.
              Cotto is bigger than Floyd. He goes in fight nights weighing 160 and he makes the JMW limit. Floyd has never weighed in above 151. I'm sorry but they are not the same size.
              Last edited by Kagami Taiga; 01-15-2014, 08:59 AM.

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                #137
                Originally posted by jwheels9876
                Cotto is a very small JMW as well as Floyd. Floyd's just in better shape so he weighs less.
                He's small in comparison to today's super sized fighters like Canelo, Kirkland, Angulo, Trout etc who put on close to 20 lbs after the weigh in but he's not small, he's solid.

                Anyone who comes to the ring 10 lbs over their weigh in weight isn't small for a weight class.

                Mayweather doesn't even make the Jr MW limit he's weighed 150 twice and 151 once.

                It's pretty obvious that Cotto is bigger than Mayweather.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  He's small in comparison to today's super sized fighters like Canelo, Kirkland, Angulo, Trout etc who put on close to 20 lbs after the weigh in small, he's solid.

                  Anyone who comes to the ring 10 lbs over their weigh in weight isn't small for a weight class.

                  Mayweather doesn't even make the Jr MW limit he's weighed 150 twice and 151 once.

                  It's pretty obvious that Cotto is bigger than Mayweather.
                  Yeah I was comparing them to today's JMW..... Cotto is tiny compared to the guys you mentioned. I wish they would go back to day of weigh ins. Lots of divisions woukd look completely different. Floyd looked just as big as Canelo at the weigh in, goes to show how dehydrated these guys get to make weight. Floyd is smart, he stays in great shape year round.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by jwheels9876
                    . Floyd looked just as big as Canelo at the weigh in, goes to show how dehydrated these guys get to make weight. Floyd is smart, he stays in great shape year round.
                    Floyd looked bigger fight night in the ring with Cotto. Why does Floyd keep secret his fight night weight?

                    Cotto and FLoyd are the same size. Floyd waits for other fighters to take risks and doesn't use his initiative. He will see how Cotto does against Sergio with a keen eye first before making any decision he isn't spontaneous that way.
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 01-15-2014, 09:33 AM.

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