Should Team Pacquiao/Top Rank make a play for the WBC Title

[-Makunouchi-]

what is this a top rank strategy session on something that will never happen. floyd has, al haymon money, oscar de la hoya money, and his own money.

pack owes 68 million and floyd signed a 250 million dollar contract you guys hate floyd so much it blinds your capacity to reason..

BTW who is Pack?

and where did you get the 68 million? lol

[bojangles1987]

And then Dubai investors swoop in! Mayweather/Pacquiao in Dubai, September 2014! Guest referee Mike Tyson!

[-Makunouchi-]

And then Dubai investors swoop in! Mayweather/Pacquiao in Dubai, September 2014! Guest referee Mike Tyson!

And floyd says, I'm not fighting in Dubai. I'm gonna stay here in vegas and fight my cherry picked opponent.

Health comes first

[IronDanHamza]

I don't think so. The only thing that kept him from getting ko'd against Maid ana was his stamina. Much the same way it kept Bradley from getting ko'd vs Provodnikov. However he could have regressed in his post - Freddie Roach fights.

The only thing keeping him up was his heart.

He's got good stamina but it's not great.

He's faded late a few times.

[-Huey-]

In this crooked ass world, that would make sense. But, in reality it's just wrong! Pacquiao does not deserve to be #1 contender in organization.

Why?

1. Lost to Bradley
2. Lost to Marquez by brutal knock out
3. Beat a C-level fighter(with no title) in a snoozer

He has a long way to go if be wants to be #1 contender, but we all know the crooked ass WBC will create another phony ass Catchweight Championship Belt just for Pacquiao.

[Slip Stream]

Oh but Floyd would surely disagree with you if we didn't take every quote of his at face value. Maybe "I care about my health/This guy is knocking guys out I couldn't" really means I'm not sure whether I can beat this guy. Certainly he has left huge gaps of inactivity where certain match-up's didn't happen when they were supposed to happen, therefore we will never know. Be as it may...http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=621395

He's got huge gaps of inactivity, and? We're drawing different conclusions based on the same facts. People that generally doubt Floyd look at his actions and find fault. I'm not in the business of second guessing fighters, I'm not a fortune teller, but you are, okay you have me at a disadvantage there but my opinion is unchanged.

This is just hyperbole. Especially from an Atheistic point of view, nobody is born to do anything. Maybe if Floyd was closer to 99-0 (ignoring the modern times of PPV's and promoting an event, which you were surely gonna throw at me in your next post even though that's not the point), having cleaned out every division he came through, you would have a point. Certainly Manny Pacquiao with all his deficiencies also increased his chances of a loss by the fact that he fought a lot more times in total, therefore more chances of running into a fighter that causes problems and gives him a loss (I.E. JMM)

The tally right now is 62 fights for Manny to 45 fights for Floyd. That's 17 more times that Manny took a theoretical risk of getting KO'd or beaten.http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=621395

Its "hyperbole" to a degree but I'm talking about performances dude, I'm not putting a number on it. The fact is Floyd makes great fighters look average and instead of earning praise for this he gets derided instead. Boxing fans have an odd standard of excellence. Of the fighters available while Floyd was active and inactive, none of them could beat him, that's just a fact dude. He comes off of a two year layoff and makes Marquez look like an amatuer. What other fighter living could do something like that?

17 more cab drivers that Manny's managed to add to his resume, while Floyd has been fighting mostly championship fights his whole career. 17 is just a number dude unless you drill down into it and find FHOFs in that number, or just really great fights, which I seriously doubt you would.

Did I say that he would beat Floyd? No. I just used him as an example. At 5'9/5'10, he is taller. We already know of his Wildcard Gym-like stamina, and we know of his speed. If there is one thing that's been missing in Floyd's career is opponents who have speed and stamina. Zab Judah could qualify but according to Floyd's own admission "Zab is a 'front runner' who fights for 5 rounds", and he was right. Many pinned their hopes on Mosley but he too started to display stamina issues, even though he had speed.

Stylistically, I certainly would prefer Khan over Maidana, and I'm one of the people who predicted that Maidana would beat Broner:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=621395

Sorry dude but I dismiss Khan out of hand, he's a bum.....

[Kagami Taiga]

so its ok to steal floyds belt because its floyd? smh boxing fans i tell u. i dont even care about the belt but u guys are hypocrites, thats for sure.

[Nay_Sayer]

You Pac.tards are desperate, just reaching at any straw put in front of you.

No way does Arum want this fight to go to a purse bid and no way does Arum want Pacquiao to fight for a vacant WBC 147lb title.

In the event of a purse bid, the Champion gets 75% of the purse. You think Arum wants to cough up 75% of 100 million dollars to watch Mayweather dismantle Pacquiao? Do you Pac.tards think that makes good business for TR?

And in the *very* unlikely event Mayweather were to vacate the WBC 147lb title, would you Pac.tards be willing to pay $59.95 to watch Pacquiao beat up on the ever dangerous Luis Carlos Abregu? Do you Pac.tards think HBO is chomping at the bit to showcase that fight?

****** Pac.tards will never learn...

[QballLobo]

HBO would be able to outbid anything Golden Boy or Showtime would put up.
HBO's boxing budget is bigger than Showtime entire budget. They don't have the funds to compete with HBO.
I think it would be a good strategy for Arum and Top Rank. Literally a no lose situation. Fight either gets made on Top Rank's terms or Manny gets a free shot at the title Floyd would vacate.

[cupocity303]

what is this a top rank strategy session on something that will never happen. floyd has, al haymon money, oscar de la hoya money, and his own money.

pack owes 68 million and floyd signed a 250 million dollar contract you guys hate floyd so much it blinds your capacity to reason..

Your choice of words make you seem like one of these 'Team Money' idiots. Certainly the new mutants of 'Team Money' posters sound even way more ridiculous, that would make you look like the reasonable one.

'Al Haymon' money? Really?