Bradley or D.Garcia - who's more overrated?
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'Overrated' is a subjective term. When somebody puts these guys down in their top 10 P4P lists, I can't help but feel it's apt to dub them 'overrated'.
And wins over average fighters like Alexander and Peterson do not impress me. Any half-decent fighter beats those guys.
Bradley's best win was against against a 40-year-old Marquez who has a history of struggling against any fighter who can move. Not a bad win, but not enough to be dubbed 'elite' imo.
D.Garcia's best win is against Matthysse, who many were calling a hype-job prior to the fight. As soon as D.Garcia beats him, people go on about it like he's beaten a prime Pacquiao. Don't get me wrong, I like Matthysse and think he's a very dangerous opponent, but stylistically it was a good match-up for D.Garcia, it suited his strengths (and Matthysse's tbf to Garcia).
But again, that win isn't enough to warrant the kind of hype he's getting.Last edited by John Locke; 01-06-2014, 06:14 PM.Comment
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Is Keith Thurman overrated then? Against an unknown Chavez he was wobbled and in the early rounds he could of easily been bombed out. Bradley just beat arguably the number 2 fighter in the world but you're very quick to point out flaws or his troubles against TRUE tough and proven opponents. No one is going to be flawless against the competition he has faced.'Overrated' is a subjective term. When somebody puts these guys down in their top 10 P4P lists, I can't help but feel it's apt to dub them 'overrated'.
And wins over average fighters like Alexander and Peterson do not impress me. Any half-decent fighter beats those guys.
Bradley's best win was against against a 40-year-old Marquez who has a history of struggling against any fighter who can move. Not a bad win, but not enough to be dubbed 'elite' imo.
D.Garcia's best win is against Matthysse, who many were calling a hype-job prior to the fight. As soon as D.Garcia beats him, people go on about it like he's beaten a prime Pacquiao. Don't get me wrong, I like Matthysse and think he's a very dangerous opponent, stylistically it was a good match-up for D.Garcia, it suited his strengths (and Matthysse's tbf to Garcia).
But again, that win isn't enough to warrant the kind of hype he's getting.
"Garcias best win was against a guy they were calling a hype job"? That is why he was a heavy underdog and not only that was expected to get his head blown off also as well. And like you are doing, Matthysee may of been called a hype job because it seems like EVERYONE is a hype job on these boards.
It's time to stop knocking fighters that are taking on PROVEN, top talent. Just another thread that proves top fighters in fans eyes should never fight top competition because if they don't turn in amazing performance after amazing performance people will just say some other guy that hasn't proven anything but has looked good against C and D competition is the future. It's old hat with a lot of you guys.Comment
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This is a incredibly easy question to answer. There both NOT overrated. Two of the best young american fighters in the game. In there prime. Overrated is that fool a broner who looks like $hi! At 147. I seriously think soto Karass could beat broner.Comment
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Whoever thought Marquez was the #2 p4p? Never seen that before.Is Keith Thurman overrated then? Against an unknown Chavez he was wobbled and in the early rounds he could of easily been bombed out. Bradley just beat arguably the number 2 fighter in the world but you're very quick to point out flaws or his troubles against TRUE tough and proven opponents. No one is going to be flawless against the competition he has faced.
"Garcias best win was against a guy they were calling a hype job"? That is why he was a heavy underdog and not only that was expected to get his head blown off also as well. And like you are doing, Matthysee may of been called a hype job because it seems like EVERYONE is a hype job on these boards.
It's time to stop knocking fighters that are taking on PROVEN, top talent. Just another thread that proves top fighters in fans eyes should never fight top competition because if they don't turn in amazing performance after amazing performance people will just say some other guy that hasn't proven anything but has looked good against C and D competition is the future. It's old hat with a lot of you guys.Comment
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Keith Thurman isn't overrated in my opinion, because not many rate him or even know who he is. I don't see people including Thurman in their top 10 P4P lists either. Chaves is unproven but he passes the eye test for me, he looks a real dangerous fighter. He could turn out to be another Maidana/Matthysse with a few more fights in the US and a bit more exposure.Is Keith Thurman overrated then? Against an unknown Chavez he was wobbled and in the early rounds he could of easily been bombed out. Bradley just beat arguably the number 2 fighter in the world but you're very quick to point out flaws or his troubles against TRUE tough and proven opponents. No one is going to be flawless against the competition he has faced.
"Garcias best win was against a guy they were calling a hype job"? That is why he was a heavy underdog and not only that was expected to get his head blown off also as well. And like you are doing, Matthysee may of been called a hype job because it seems like EVERYONE is a hype job on these boards.
It's time to stop knocking fighters that are taking on PROVEN, top talent. Just another thread that proves top fighters in fans eyes should never fight top competition because if they don't turn in amazing performance after amazing performance people will just say some other guy that hasn't proven anything but has looked good against C and D competition is the future. It's old hat with a lot of you guys.
And I'm pretty sure it's alright to debate a fighter's flaws and weaknesses on here? No need to get all touchy about it. If you disagree, fair enough. Just say so and move on.Comment
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bradley has earned his way minus pacquiao he has been beating guys who went on to become champions and were undefeated while garcia beat guys who were half way out the door before they were pulled back in to make him look good which he couln't even look good against zab who paulie just defeated lucas was defeated by guys bradley beat in there prime furthermore we are about to see bradley fight Pacqaio once again a p4p atg while danny will go on to fight a paulieLast edited by way2strong; 01-06-2014, 06:32 PM.Comment
mods pls ban this mf.
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