Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Admits Mayweather Fight Unlikely Until 2015

[The Big Dunn]

i think u out did urself for today. this had nothing to do with what floyd can or cannot offer. u were trying to compare what floyd is asking manny to do to what bob told jmm, shane and tim. damm dunn u really gonna stood this low just to defend this?? u know damm well negotiation for shane, jmm and tim NEVER started until they got signed onto top rank first as compare to floyd and manny they actually negotiated and almost got the fight made until the ost issue then after its no longer an issue thats when floyd bust out the u need to leave arum first.

SO there was no negotiations until they signed to TR. Thats interesting.

SO who came up with the condition that these fighters had to sign with TR and how was that communicated to jmm, tim ad shane if there were no negotiations?

I guess JMM, tim and shane all just asked Bob out of the blue can they sign with TR. Bob said sure, then began discussing possible manny fights for all of them.

Ok, does that sound plausible to you evol?.

[sdcluser]

Floyd and manny aren't in "prime " but still #1 and top 10 lb 4 lb

Cuz they are selective among opponents and protected by their promoters for the $$. It's the same dudes rotation in the same stables. This ain't no old flick ****o where Ed Power, Ron Jeremy, Randy West appear (in one function or another) in 50% of all movies.



P4P #1 is Andre Ward.

[Evol]

JMM fought manny twice before. so they had previous negotiations. why did JMM have to sign with TR for the last 2 fights when he didn't the 1st 2 fights?

wow... those negotiation were exactly just that, for those fights!! did pac and floyd fought before already??? did jmm and bob and manny sat down talked and agreed on everything except for the money split then when marquez finally agree to take less money, manny hits him with u need to leave ur promoter first, did this happen dunn?????

[The Big Dunn]

wow... those negotiation were exactly just that, for those fights!! did pac and floyd fought before already??? did jmm and bob and manny sat down talked and agreed on everything except for the money split then when marquez finally agree to take less money, manny hits him with u need to leave ur promoter first, did this happen dunn?????

the bolded is the same for the negotiations for the manny floyd fight. did they end or are they still ongoing? you decide.

[Evol]

SO there was no negotiations until they signed to TR. Thats interesting.

SO who came up with the condition that these fighters had to sign with TR and how was that communicated to jmm, tim ad shane if there were no negotiations?

I guess JMM, tim and shane all just asked Bob out of the blue can they sign with TR. Bob said sure, then began discussing possible manny fights for all of them.

Ok, does that sound plausible to you evol?.

wow.. negotiation to fight pac u dumbass. they didnt actually talk and go into details as to whos gonna get this much, etc UNTIL they were sign to top rank! u were comparing that floyd is doing the same as what bob did. NO its not the same! floyd and manny actually talked and agreed upon eachothers demand except for ost. then manny agree to ost and now manny needs to leave bob first. now i asked u did any of this happen to jmm, shane and tim?? did they all sat down with bob first and agree to the money split, ppv shares, everything? and then years later bob goes hey u need to leave ur promoter first. did this happen??

[The Big Dunn]

wow.. negotiation to fight pac u dumbass. they didnt actually talk and go into details as to whos gonna get this much, etc UNTIL they were sign to top rank! u were comparing that floyd is doing the same as what bob did. NO its not the same! floyd and manny actually talked and agreed upon eachothers demand except for ost. then manny agree to ost and now manny needs to leave bob first. now i asked u did any of this happen to jmm, shane and tim?? did they all sat down with bob first and agree to the money split, ppv shares, everything? and then years later bob goes hey u need to leave ur promoter first. did this happen??

I don't know if it happened or not. Why does it matter?

If I read your other posts-negotiations are only for those fights, not subsequent ones. SO the question is did the negotiations that started in 09 ever end?

I would argue yes they ended when manny refused the offer or when floyd took it off the table.

[sapo13]

exactly!! so negotiation never happen with them until they were signed onto top rank first. with manny and floyd, they were both in negotiation even agreed upon the demands and ost was the ONLY issue. after manny agree to that then floyd comes out with u need to leave arum first. so please tell me how is this the same as what jmm, shane and tim had to do??? my whole point when i was debating with dunn is that the situation is NOT the same then u quoted me with ur smart ass reply only to go nowhere with it.

Floyd Came to many with the offer Floyd is his own boss!! when the promoters were no longer negotiating cuz bob wanted to build a stadium and bob said that pacquaio would be ready in may when Floyd was going to jail then when Floyd got the JUSTICE OF THE PEACE to postponed the jail time BOB then said pacquaio had a cut and wants to build a stadium!!! ULTIMATE DUCK!!!

Then Floyd (his own boss) stepped up and offered pacquaio the biggest payday offer he has ever received!!

it was clear what marquez and mosley had to do to get the fight!!!

[Evol]

I don't know if it happened or not. Why does it matter?

If I read your other posts-negotiations are only for those fights, not subsequent ones. SO the question is did the negotiations that started in 09 ever end?

I would argue yes they ended when manny refused the offer or when floyd took it off the table.

why does it matter?? because u were saying its the same thing!! are u ******ed?? jmm, shane or tim never sat down with manny and bob, agreed on everything except for 1 thing then came back and agree on it then manny pulls the u need to leave ur promoter first. this never happen as compare to what happen with pac and floyd. with jmm, shane and tim, arum told them u need to come sign with me first before we can talk about a pac fight. how is this the same as what floyd is doing to manny??

[The Big Dunn]

why does it matter?? because u were saying its the same thing!! are u ******ed?? jmm, shane or tim never sat down with manny and bob, agreed on everything except for 1 thing then came back and agree on it then manny pulls the u need to leave ur promoter first. this never happen as compare to what happen with pac and floyd. with jmm, shane and tim, arum told them u need to come sign with me first before we can talk about a pac fight. how is this the same as what floyd is doing to manny??

I said the requests were the same, not the situations.

SO the question is did the negotiations that started in 09 ever end?

[M4RK]

The lengths Pacquiao fans go to defend Arum, its like they dont want the fight to happen.

You sir, have been brain washed.