Prime Leonard v Prime RJJ - SMW - who wins?

[JAB5239]

Leonard isn't prime at middleweight. I think Jones beats him and maybe even stops him. But as he's proven before you can't count out an even slightly past prime SRL.

[RealIzm]

Roy was the Ayotollah of anything above Middleweight. He wins this easy.

This honestly is a horrible comparison...even as a fantasy matchup....Smh

can't you be more creative than this? fcking hell.....

[RealIzm]

Leonard isn't prime at middleweight. I think Jones beats him and maybe even stops him. But as he's proven before you can't count out an even slightly past prime SRL.

When it comes to facing a prime time Roy Jones Jr......yes you can easily count sugar out...He's just too small....and Roy was just that amazing..

[boliodogs]

How about at 160?

A weight of 160 would be much better for Leonard than 168. Jones was not at 160 very long and he peaked at 168 and 175. Leonard was a big welterweight or a small middleweight and he beat an older Hagler in a close fight that could have gone either way. At 160 I think Jones would win but it would be a close fight. A prime Jones might be drained at 160 and Leonard was not a full sized middleweight so 160 is not a perfect weight for either man. Leonard at his best was a great fighter but I think Jones at his best was just a little bit better. Jones was a much bigger man so it's hard to find a weight for them to fight at that is fair for both of them.

[Ham Porter]

That's right. Leonard was the real original catchweight king.

That's a mightily impressive feat given the prevalence of such bouts decades before he was even born. But then you'd have known that if you weren't such a newb.

[soul_survivor]

I get that, but I'm just saying there's a flaw in that logic.

If you let RJJ keep all his attributes, but then weight wasn't an issue, he'd still win. His main attributes were him being faster than everyone, better reflexes than anyone. Power compared to his weight class was great. He was virtually untouchable, and he could move around the ring like a cat.

If weight wasn't an issue, than RJJ still wins in a H2H. You have to give him the same attributes that make him special at HIS weight class.

RJJ may have had better reflexes than SRL but he was no slouch, add to that SRL having faster hands, for which there can be no doubt. Leonard was also a far better combination puncher and an all round fighter. P4P Leonard still had a better chin too, I don't see how Jones wins this. SRL stops him late. Period.

[bojangles1987]

RJJ may have had better reflexes than SRL but he was no slouch, add to that SRL having faster hands, for which there can be no doubt. Leonard was also a far better combination puncher and an all round fighter. P4P Leonard still had a better chin too, I don't see how Jones wins this. SRL stops him late. Period.

How is there no doubt Leonard has faster hands? Roy had lightweight hand speed.

Roy could win because he was a freak athlete with a lot of skill who was very, very hard to deal with. He knew exactly how to fully utilize his tremendous physical gifts. H2H, there are very few fighters, if any, harder to beat than prime Roy Jones. And Leonard can be outboxed.

[110110110]

Prime Roy had it all, lightning fast feet,hands,reflexes, ring smarts, in his prime he is the most gifted fighter I ever saw.

His only problem was that he was soo fast, that he never developed a great defense.

Floyd developed the way he did because he is scared to get hit and not fast enourgh4.

Roy ended up getting koéd because in hus prime he was soo fast that he looked like he was nemo in the matrix 1 .

A motivated prime Roy jones = the GOAT

[110110110]

RJJ may have had better reflexes than SRL but he was no slouch, add to that SRL having faster hands, for which there can be no doubt. Leonard was also a far better combination puncher and an all round fighter. P4P Leonard still had a better chin too, I don't see how Jones wins this. SRL stops him late. Period.

If you think SRL had faster hands the prime Roy Jones jr you need a new brain

[TBear]

Leonard was a welterweight. Super middleweight was not near his prime weight. Jones was a natural middle-super middle so the advantage goes to him.