Comments Thread For: Salido: Lomachenko's Title Shot Disrespects Everyone

[D4thincarnation]

Im usually all for a fighter working his way up the rankings, but exceptions can be made for exceptional fighters...especially those who can brighten boxing's star with a legitimate win. Personally I think Salido just doesn't want to be the guy remembered as the guy who lost to Loma for the title in his second fight. I can understand that...but sometimes we have to look at the bigger picture and how it would energize the sport.

Exactly, People should be giving credit to Loma for taking on this fight not criticizing him. The pro game is very different and lot of medal winning amateurs have failed to make the grade in the pro ranks.

[D4thincarnation]

Hey some guys earn it some guys get it easy Rigondeaux had just as much an impressive career as a amateur but he is not as young or as marketable so he had to sc**** and literally claw to get his chance and even just 12 fights was pretty ridiculous to be getting a shot at a p4p guy (although pretty sure Bob underestimated the **** out of the guy when he agreed to put a Donaire fight in the contract) to be honest but like you said considerations and exceptions can be made because of the dudes amateur background. I just think this is past a consideration this is more serving him the best match making they can get in a silver platter type stuff, but I understand why and cant really **** on the guy for it best of luck to him.

No, Loma's record is better.

Rigo didn't go after a title in his second fight.


And working hard only get you so far, you need talent to be a great boxer and get title shots.

[HeroBando]

Hey some guys earn it some guys get it easy Rigondeaux had just as much an impressive career as a amateur but he is not as young or as marketable so he had to sc**** and literally claw to get his chance and even just 12 fights was pretty ridiculous to be getting a shot at a p4p guy (although pretty sure Bob underestimated the **** out of the guy when he agreed to put a Donaire fight in the contract) to be honest but like you said considerations and exceptions can be made because of the dudes amateur background. I just think this is past a consideration this is more serving him the best match making they can get in a silver platter type stuff, but I understand why and cant really **** on the guy for it best of luck to him.

He didn't really have to sc**** or claw. He got an interim title shot in only his 7th fight on a Pac PPV undercard, looked vulnerable and not TV friendly, and then got a full title shot in his 9th fight vs a green titlist, Haymon client Ramos, who's a LOT less risky than Salido. Then got a shot at a p4per in his 12th fight, for 750k. So he's had a much easier/smoother path to title than 99% of the fighters. That's why it's strange to see so many Rigo fans crying about this. Or not, since they probably feel Rigo is getting overshadowed somehow.

[BendOver]

He didn't really have to sc**** or claw. He got an interim title shot in only his 7th fight on a Pac PPV undercard, looked vulnerable and not TV friendly, and then got a full title shot in his 9th fight vs a green titlist, Haymon client Ramos, who's a LOT less risky than Salido. Then got a shot at a p4per in his 12th fight, for 750k. So he's had a much easier/smoother path to title than 99% of the fighters. That's why it's strange to see so many Rigo fans crying about this. Or not, since they probably feel Rigo is getting overshadowed somehow.

My only beef with this shot is the amount of fights or lack of them credited to the kid, he has 7 fights not 1, I think this is good for boxing is opening the door for other standout amateurs...

[HeroBando]

My only beef with this shot is the amount of fights or lack of them credited to the kid, he has 7 fights not 1, I think this is good for boxing is opening the door for other standout amateurs...

I understand, the WSB is damn close to pro. But like I said, top pro prospects wouldn't sign up for it if they knew it would count towards their pro record. If you're a pro prospect, you're usually moved very slow, nothing too risky till 15th+ fight. Plus WSB does not get you ranked with any pro sanctioning bodies, even though you're fighting better comp than many ranked "contenders".

Cuba is now in the WSB. It'd be interesting if someone like Robeisy takes a loss or even 2, then defects and turns pro, whether you maintain the same position.

[DannYankee]

He didn't really have to sc**** or claw. He got an interim title shot in only his 7th fight on a Pac PPV undercard, looked vulnerable and not TV friendly, and then got a full title shot in his 9th fight vs a green titlist, Haymon client Ramos, who's a LOT less risky than Salido. Then got a shot at a p4per in his 12th fight, for 750k. So he's had a much easier/smoother path to title than 99% of the fighters. That's why it's strange to see so many Rigo fans crying about this. Or not, since they probably feel Rigo is getting overshadowed somehow.

Cordoba was just as ****** to put a guy with 7 fights in with him as is putting a guy with 1 against Salido. And you dont get that the guy said I will not sign the contract mr Arum unless you put a Donaire fight in there other-wise he would have never gotten the shot at 12 fights only reason he did is Arum under estimated him. Lomachenko would get that thrown at him because he is not a guy who is gonna have to earn it, because he is being groomed, but that doesn't always work out as people should have learned by now... with stories like Donaire and Broner around it should be pretty clear guys who earn it> guys who are groomed to be something. The cream always rises to the top regardless . Lomachenko could beat 20 Salido's unless he plans to eat Donaire or Mikey garcia soon after that the only way he would prove he is better than Rigondeaux is if he fought him.... so you cant overshadow someone who casts a bigger shadow than you.

No, Loma's record is better.

Rigo didn't go after a title in his second fight.


And working hard only get you so far, you need talent to be a great boxer and get title shots.

You don't get it Rigondeaux would not have gotten it in his second fight even if he tried thats what the whole point is he had to prove he was substance first you dont get title shots just because. Lomachenko has not a thing better in terms of record than Rigondeaux not as an amateur sure as fk not as pro. Only reason Lomachenko is getting that title shot is because Arum is handing it to him not talent or any other b/s reason. Arum has been collecting guys to try to groom in desperation mode in case you haven't noticed he has no potential cash cow lined up since the last one got derailed by yours truly Mr Rigo.

[HeroBando]

Cordoba was just as ****** to put a guy with 7 fights in with him as is putting a guy with 1 against Salido. And you dont get that the guy said I will not sign the contract mr Arum unless you put a Donaire fight in there other-wise he would have never gotten the shot at 12 fights only reason he did is Arum under estimated him. Lomachenko would get that thrown at him because he is not a guy who is gonna have to earn it, because he is being groomed, but that doesn't always work out as people should have learned by now... with stories like Donaire and Broner around it should be pretty clear guys who earn it> guys who are groomed to be something. The cream always rises to the top regardless . Lomachenko could beat 20 Salido's unless he plans to eat Donaire or Mikey garcia soon after that the only way he would prove he is better than Rigondeaux is if he fought him.... so you cant overshadow someone who casts a bigger shadow than you.



You don't get it Rigondeaux would not have gotten it in his second fight even if he tried thats what the whole point is he had to prove he was substance first you dont get title shots just because. Lomachenko has not a thing better in terms of record than Rigondeaux not as an amateur sure as fk not as pro. Only reason Lomachenko is getting that title shot is because Arum is handing it to him not talent or any other b/s reason. Arum has been collecting guys to try to groom in desperation mode in case you haven't noticed he has no potential cash cow lined up since the last one got derailed by yours truly Mr Rigo.

I see, you are seeing this as a competition and a challenge to Rigo. I'm not thinking Rigo, Salido will be enough of a challenge. I disagree Cordoba was tougher, he was stopped by Dunne the previous year and Dunne is Euro class and chinny.

Rigo wasn't even with Arum when he turned pro, right? He signed a pro contract with Hyde very early, try to renege, legal threats etc. Despite all that he got those title shots very early, and didn't even look ready vs Cordoba

[DannYankee]

I see, you are seeing this as a competition and a challenge to Rigo. I'm not thinking Rigo, Salido will be enough of a challenge. I disagree Cordoba was tougher, he was stopped by Dunne the previous year and Dunne is Euro class and chinny.

Rigo wasn't even with Arum when he turned pro, right? He signed a pro contract with Hyde very early, try to renege, legal threats etc. Despite all that he got those title shots very early, and didn't even look ready vs Cordoba

Cordoba was no easy cookie at all the dude has plenty names in his record he made it ugly and made Rigondeaux uncomfortable, and It isn't a competition Rigo isn't even the best example he is just one of them point is i understand why pro boxers who have been fighting their way up who got nothing handed to them would be annoyed by this even by Rigo you could say but you cant say the frikkin guy has a better resume than Rigondeaux with one fight. From his 7th fight on RIgondeaux quality of opponent just kept stepping up he took the best available chances every time til he got the best one of all he didn't spend forever fighting bums on hbo under-cards like a lot of fighters do because he fought the best guys he could but he didn't get handed **** either he didn't even get handed props for schooling donaire by his own promoter ffs.

Vasyl may have gotten a gift or a bomb wrapped in gift paper depends if he has enough speed and power to make Salido stop coming a bit. Like I said I wish him luck because I hope to God they put him in a Ring with Rigondeaux in a no so distance future. But i can understand why Salido said what he said.