Who has Golovkin Beat?

[HeroBando]

Golovkin has the benefit of fighting in a weak division. However, despite fighting in a weak division, Golovkin is protected as all hell. I don't buy into this "ducked by everybody" sad story the G F@gs are singing. That's a steaming pile. Golovkin has the blessing and backing of HBO. If his handlers wanted to up his competition, they could do so with no problem. Instead, Golovkin is fighting another "keep busy" fight in a career made up of "keep busy" fights. This is no different than Arum's creation of the big bad middleweight monster in the form of JCCjr. ALL HYPE. The first real fighter Baby Chavez got put into the right with exposed that hype job REAL QUICK. I suspect it will be the same with Golovkin. Dude is WAY too easy to hit. There's plenty good reason why you never hear Golovkin mentioning Wards name. Ward gives him the Chad Dawson treatment - only worse...

Uh ok, you sound clueless. There's a thread right now with MW contender Murray outright ducking GGG, what else is new. But this guy had no issues going to Sergio and Sturm's hometown.

Macklin and Stevens made 3x what Rosado made vs Quillin, almost as much as GGG.

JCC Jr wasn't a MW monster, do you even follow boxing? For the longest time he was a sideshow, a joke. Nobody took him seriously. He only got a little hype after Lee, and then some Sergio fans bigged him up after their bout.

[Weebler I]

He comes cheap, but his opponents don't. Macklin and Stevens both made 300k+, an unbelievable split vs featured champ. By comparison, over at Showtime Quillin's opponents are happy to get 100k

Quillin's opponents that include names like Fernando Guerrero and Gabriel Rosado. Sure they're happy, because they're not that good.

If HBO and Sho want big names for Golovkin and Quillin, then they have to offer them big money. Otherwise, they'll target Sturm, Martinez or domestic clashes in UK/Oz.

[HeroBando]

Quillin's opponents that include names like Fernando Guerrero and Gabriel Rosado. Sure they're happy, because they're not that good.

If HBO and Sho want big names for Golovkin and Quillin, then they have to offer them big money. Otherwise, they'll target Sturm, Martinez or domestic clashes in UK/Oz.

True enough. But Stevens' market value wasn't much higher and he scoffed at 300k vs GGG.

You're right about this, but then it all starts looking like a cashout. You wanna see a hungry contender, eager for the title and chance to expose the hyped star, not someone going in there to lay down for retirement money. Like Murray and Macklin, who came all hungry vs Sturm and Sergio, and seem resigned to fate vs GGG.

[Nay_Sayer]

Uh ok, you sound clueless. There's a thread right now with MW contender Murray outright ducking GGG, what else is new. But this guy had no issues going to Sergio and Sturm's hometown.

Ok dude, if you say so. Murray is going to go where the money is. If HBO and Golovkin's handlers wanted to make the fight then it would happen. Instead, HBO is going to continue bankrolling Golovkin's contemporary "Bum of the Month" tour. I wonder why?

Macklin and Stevens made 3x what Rosado made vs Quillin, almost as much as GGG.

Like I said, Golovkin has the blessing and backing of HBO. If HBO wants to see Golovkin fight someone with a pulse then they'll pay for it. I'm sure HBO is willing but we haven't seen Golovkin fight any live bodies yet. I wonder why?

JCC Jr wasn't a MW monster, do you even follow boxing? For the longest time he was a sideshow, a joke. Nobody took him seriously. He only got a little hype after Lee, and then some Sergio fans bigged him up after their bout.

LOL.

Any and everyone with a clue KNEW JCCjr was no middleweight monster but that didn't stop Arum, HBO and the Mexican fan base from hyping him up as such. Like I said, Baby Chavez, as is Golovkin, was ALL HYPE - no substance. The first REAL fighter he got put in the ring with EXPOSED Baby Chavez. It'll be no different with Golovkin - which is exactly why you have a *32* year old fighter with a ridiculously padded resume still fighting "keep busy" fights.

Snake Oil.

Golovkin needs to come off of the modern "Bum of the Month" tour and fight someone with a pulse...

[HeroBando]

Ok dude, if you say so. Murray is going to go where the money is. If HBO and Golovkin's handlers wanted to make the fight then it would happen. Instead, HBO is going to continue bankrolling Golovkin's contemporary "Bum of the Month" tour. I wonder why?



Like I said, Golovkin has the blessing and backing of HBO. If HBO wants to see Golovkin fight someone with a pulse then they'll pay for it. I'm sure HBO is willing but we haven't seen Golovkin fight any live bodies yet. I wonder why?



LOL.

Any and everyone with a clue KNEW JCCjr was no middleweight monster but that didn't stop Arum, HBO and the Mexican fan base from hyping him up as such. Like I said, Baby Chavez, as is Golovkin, was ALL HYPE - no substance. The first REAL fighter he got put in the ring with EXPOSED Baby Chavez. It'll be no different with Golovkin - which is exactly why you have a *32* year old fighter with a ridiculously padded resume still fighting "keep busy" fights.

Snake Oil.

Golovkin needs to come off of the modern "Bum of the Month" tour and fight someone with a pulse...

No MWs were ducking JCC, they were all lining up for him. Nor did anyone think he was a monster, as you conceded. He was the best risk/reward guy in the division. So bad analogy, what else is new?

Clearly you think he's much too good for his weight class, including p4p rated Sergio, and it'll take a bigger, #2 rated guy to expose him. That's high praise indeed.

[Nay_Sayer]

No MWs were ducking JCC, they were all lining up for him. Nor did anyone think he was a monster, as you conceded. He was the best risk/reward guy in the division. So bad analogy, what else is new?

Clearly you think he's much too good for his weight class, including p4p rated Sergio, and it'll take a bigger, #2 rated guy to expose him. That's high praise indeed.

Nobody was ducking Baby Chavez because JR was the money man in his division [and still is @ 168]. This is the same reason why the "everyone is ducking Golovkin" sad story isn't selling any tickets. Golovkin isn't the money man in his division. Sergio is, and soon, maybe Cotto.

And no, I don't think Golovkin is "too good" for his weight class. Where do you groupies get this **** from? Quillin beats Golovkin and so does a healthy Martinez...

[HeroBando]

Nobody was ducking Baby Chavez because JR was the money man in his division [and still is @ 168]. This is the same reason why the "everyone is ducking Golovkin" sad story isn't selling any tickets. Golovkin isn't the money man in his division. Sergio is, and soon, maybe Cotto.

And no, I don't think Golovkin is "too good" for his weight class. Where do you groupies get this **** from? Quillin beats Golovkin and so does a healthy Martinez...

Great, now you see why your comparison was ******.

Then very convenient for you that Quillin wants nothing to do with GGG, and Sergio will never be healthy again. Plus GGG has got Sergio's promoter petrified, the poor sucker fell for the hype hook line and sinker:

"Sergio will be out for at least a year. You saw his last fight, he won it on guts and will and balls alone. He had no knee, he had no hand, and I'm not sending a champion who is 38-years-old - after a year plus layoff - into a ring with this guy. I'm not saying they will never fight. I'm not speaking for Sergio, who is a grown as man and controls his own career. The successor to Sergio Martinez has already been determined and the next great middleweight is Triple G."

[Nay_Sayer]

Great, now you see why your comparison was ******.

What the hell are you talking about?

The comparison between Baby Chavez and Golovkin is spot on. Both are/were protected fighters and both are hype jobs.

Then very convenient for you that Quillin wants nothing to do with GGG, and Sergio will never be healthy again. Plus GGG has got Sergio's promoter petrified, the poor sucker fell for the hype hook line and sinker:

Ok, if you think Quillin wants nothing to do with Golovkin, as you've already drank the rest of the Golovkin hype koolaid, then go right ahead and believe want you want. I think Quillin beats Golovkin and I can only hope that one day, when Golovkin comes off of his "Bum of the Month" tour, we will get to see that fight.

As far as Martinez is concerned, I don't know if we will ever see him healthy again - but if we do - he'll beat Golovkin...

[HeroBando]

What the hell are you talking about?

The comparison between Baby Chavez and Golovkin is spot on. Both are/were protected fighters and both are hype jobs.



Ok, if you think Quillin wants nothing to do with Golovkin, as you've already drank the rest of the Golovkin hype koolaid, then go right ahead and believe want you want. I think Quillin beats Golovkin and I can only hope that one day, when Golovkin comes off of his "Bum of the Month" tour, we will get to see that fight.

As far as Martinez is concerned, I don't know if we will ever see him healthy again - but if we do - he'll beat Golovkin...

Well one is the best risk reward guy in the division, the other worst. One had guys lining up to fight him, other has whole top 10 ducking. One no amateur experience, other elite. One everyone thought was a joke, the other has Sergio's promoter saying he's the next great MW. That's why it's an idiotic comparison, it shouldn't take you this long to see it.

I didn't drink koolaid, I read what Quillin said, and listened to his interviews. Here, get informed:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=623131

[Nay_Sayer]

Well one is the best risk reward guy in the division, the other worst. One had guys lining up to fight him, other has whole top 10 ducking. One no amateur experience, other elite. One everyone thought was a joke, the other has Sergio's promoter saying he's the next great MW. That's why it's an idiotic comparison, it shouldn't take you this long to see it.

I didn't drink koolaid, I read what Quillin said, and listened to his interviews. Here, get informed:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=623131

Hey genius, I never said Baby Chavez and Golovkin were identical twins. It just so happens that they DO have something in common - hence my comparison. Both are protected fighters and both are hype jobs.

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