Has Cotto even earned a crack at a MW title?

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  • Larry the boss
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    #61
    Originally posted by Golovkin
    Sergio has not... tell me, what's the biggest win of Martinez career? A weeded up version of Chavez Jr? or the Pavlik who struggled with alcohol during his training camp? Or P. Williams who struggled with Ishida? All decent wins still but...

    None of those names come close to what Mosley, Mayweather, Margarito, Clottey, Pacquiao... etc ETC were during the time Cotto fought them.

    Cotto has never avoided anybody. His resume is truly incredible.

    And I hope so man.........
    you asked what was Sergios greatest WINS!!!!..then proceed to list fights cotto lost

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    • Hougigo
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      #62
      Money...that's how

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        #63
        Originally posted by Zano-24
        No but its because he has a name that he can get that title shot. Just like Mayweather at 154 pounds. Or like when Manny fought Margarito at a cw for a vacant title. Its just boxing politics.
        Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
        He's built enough enough equity to fight whoever he wants at this point.

        Sergio ain't fighting GGG anytime soon. Whatever. Let's get it on.
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        no, but sergio, cotto, their teams and HBO all want the fight.
        Good points that i quoted here, also...you need to update your sig. Canelo lost a fight, so he is not undefeated.

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        • Lords
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          #64
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          No matter how anyone wants to spin it, Canelo beat Trout. He beat him fairly easily actually. 8-4 at worst. There's a vendetta against Canelo because of various reasons, GBP, he's young, next DLH, obviously skillful and poised for his age, potential Mayweather opponent(at the time), and did way better and made it look easier than a lot of people thought. Trout looked silly missing while Canelo ducked and dodged his weak little jabs that seemed to have impressed a lot of people. Lol, 400 of 700 punches thrown were jabs, how the hell do you win a fight like that when the other fighter landed as many power punches as you, while throwing less? I mean talk about elusiveness, defense, patience, and being economical with your punches. Caleo landed the same amount of power punches as Trout, but threw well-over 100 less. That's a winner to me.
          Stopped reading after the "8-4 at worst" comment.

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            #65
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Cotto is not even better than Canelo, let alone "1T" times better. I'm sure Canelo takes Cotto at this point. And Martinez should be able to take out Cotto before 12 if he is at least 90%.

            Cotto is nothing but a dollar sign at this point, a dollar sign that can be competitive, but his days as an elite are over. He is not a threat to any top 5 fighter. The last fighter he beat wasn't even top 10 in his own division, and the last fighter he beat prior to Rodriguez was Margarito, who was not top 10 either, the fighter he beat before that, Mayorga, was not top 10 either. Cotto's last 3 wins came against 3 fighters that were outside of the top 10 at 154. He's now facing the best fighter in the division above his. That's a big jump in competition.

            Canelo, the guy you think so lowly of, at least has 2 wins over #2 and #4 ranked JMW's in the same span as Cotto's wins over lesser opponents.
            So when Cotto wins you will automatically assume that Sergio was not at least 90% for the fight, correct?

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              #66
              Originally posted by Money Team.
              you asked what was Sergios greatest WINS!!!!..then proceed to list fights cotto lost
              That pretty much finished that debate.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Slyboots
                You really come up with the dumbest arguments ever. I enjoy debates with people on the other side of the spectrum on certain topics, like Kev (the guy really knows his stuff), but you just reach for such ****** arguments such as this to make a point.
                Truth hurts for you. I know.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by El Angel
                  Uncle had been verbally abusive towards him for years and essentially had Miguel training himself for his big fights towards the end. He instigated that whole mess. When Cotto fights big names, it's for $$$$. But when ODLH did it, it was because he was a warrior FOH
                  Wow verbally abusive...oh Cotto is such a sensitive guy. You mother****ers always talking about "dangerous hands". Fact is, Cotto is a professional good boxer. His uncle? Just an old man that trains. What if Cotto would of landed one good shot. Could of killed him. Oh but I'm sure "dangerous hands" doesn't apply with Cotto.

                  Oscar did it too. When did I deny that? He ducked Margarito to fight Pac for more money and got his ass whooped. Just cause I really like a boxer doesn't mean I'm blind like most of you.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Da Boxer
                    Not just da King.....he IS The King, King Cotto!
                    What the hell is he the king of? King of the Gate Keepers?

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                    • El Angel
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Fantastic One
                      Wow verbally abusive...oh Cotto is such a sensitive guy. You mother****ers always talking about "dangerous hands". Fact is, Cotto is a professional good boxer. His uncle? Just an old man that trains. What if Cotto would of landed one good shot. Could of killed him. Oh but I'm sure "dangerous hands" doesn't apply with Cotto.

                      Oscar did it too. When did I deny that? He ducked Margarito to fight Pac for more money and got his ass whooped. Just cause I really like a boxer doesn't mean I'm blind like most of you.
                      So Miguel shouldn't be allowed to protect himself because he's a professional boxer? Bullshit, he has that right as much as any other person.

                      But you don't come in ODLH threads and post 10 times stating the same damn thing like you've done in every Cotto thread for the past few days. Quit acting like you're unbiased when it's plain as day you are.

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