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  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    No one say's Pacquaio cherry picked Hatton. It wasn't considered it at the time nor now.



    So it's one rule for one and not the other? Ok.



    Pacquaio is accused of cherry picking Margarito because he was unranked and hadn't had an impressive win in 3 or so years.

    Margarito would be considered a dangerous opponent for Hopkins? Please.

    He wouldn't be considered a good victory for anybody that was relevant at 147-154 at the time considering he hadn't done anything in years.



    And this is here is confirming my original point.

    Mayweather's the only person who can fight the calibur of opponents he does and be considered a cherry picker.

    All he fights is top ranked contenders or Champions yet he's the only guy who get's criticized for being a cherry picker.

    I suppose, to take your line, that just shows how good he is.
    Floyd fights champions but those champions don't neccesarily have to be the best or most dangerous so that's why he is a cherry picker. His fighting very little suits his cherry picking as he can decide to fight when he sees a weak champ on the horizon, just like lions in the Serengeti picking weaker prey.
    He don't fight guys as good as Pac fights so is called a ducker and cherry picker so don't try use reverse phycology to turn a bad situation around for Floyd with excuses after excuses.

    He fights champs like Ortiz and Guerrero but they still aren't as good as Bradley and JMM however you look at it. Floyd was so nicely rested but all he could do is beat weak champs. Whereas Pac is in perpetual motion one fight after the other, and fits in JMM and Bradley into his already busy schedule.
    Pac is held to a far higher standard than Floyd ever was or could be.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 12-27-2013, 07:51 PM.

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    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
      Floyd fights champions but those champions don't neccesarily have to be the best or most dangerous so that's why he is a cherry picker. He don't fight guys as good as Pac fights so is called a ducker and cherry picker so don't try use reverse phycology to turn a bad situation around for Floyd with excuses after excuses.

      He fights champs like Ortiz and Guerrero but they still aren't as good as Bradley and JMM however you look at it.
      The difference is Pacquaio doesn't get called a cherry picker as opposed to Floyd.

      Like I said and have been saying, Floyd's the only person who would get criticized for the level of opponents he takes.

      I mean, Mayweather and Pacquaio have many of the same opponents. Most of which that Mayweather fought first yet one's a cherry picker and the other isn't?

      An obvious double standard.

      Or maybes he's too good. Ha, one of your lines.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        The difference is Pacquaio doesn't get called a cherry picker as opposed to Floyd.

        Like I said and have been saying, Floyd's the only person who would get criticized for the level of opponents he takes.

        I mean, Mayweather and Pacquaio have many of the same opponents. Most of which that Mayweather fought first yet one's a cherry picker and the other isn't?

        An obvious double standard.

        Or maybes he's too good. Ha, one of your lines.


        Floyd fights champions but those champions don't neccesarily have to be the best or most dangerous so that's why he is a cherry picker. His fighting very little suits his cherry picking as he can decide to fight when he sees a weak champ on the horizon, just like lions in the Serengeti picking weaker prey.
        He don't fight guys as good as Pac fights so is called a ducker and cherry picker so don't try use reverse phycology to turn a bad situation around for Floyd with excuses after excuses.

        He fights champs like Ortiz and Guerrero but they still aren't as good as Bradley and JMM however you look at it. Floyd was so nicely rested but all he could do is beat weak champs. Whereas Pac is in perpetual motion one fight after the other, and fits in JMM and Bradley into his already busy schedule.
        Pac is held to a far higher standard than Floyd ever was or could be

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant
          Floyd fights champions but those champions don't neccesarily have to be the best or most dangerous so that's why he is a cherry picker. His fighting very little suits his cherry picking as he can decide to fight when he sees a weak champ on the horizon, just like lions in the Serengeti picking weaker prey.
          He don't fight guys as good as Pac fights so is called a ducker and cherry picker so don't try use reverse phycology to turn a bad situation around for Floyd with excuses after excuses.

          He fights champs like Ortiz and Guerrero but they still aren't as good as Bradley and JMM however you look at it. Floyd was so nicely rested but all he could do is beat weak champs. Whereas Pac is in perpetual motion one fight after the other, and fits in JMM and Bradley into his already busy schedule.
          Pac is held to a far higher standard than Floyd ever was or could be
          Pretty much repeating exactly what you said in your last post. Not going to change anything by just repeating it.

          And the last sentence doesn't correlate with your comments. Quite the opposite, actually.

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          • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Not in your eyes they aren't.

            Saying they were "lies" is the most absurd cop-out I've ever read.

            And you're saying you didn't want him to fight Mosley? Yet, he was ducking him? So he was ducking someone that he shouldn't have fought (in your eyes) anyway? You're going to sit here and say you didn't want to see that fight with Mosley when you picked Mosley to knock him out and were pretty adamant about it? Yeah, right.

            You picked Mosley to knock him out, you picked Ortiz to beat him, you made a thread asking for the Cotto fight, and you said Floyd should fight Guererro.

            These are all things you said prior to the fights, therefore how can you say he's cherry picked his last 5 fights? You can't, it's impossible.

            The only one you have a leg to stand on is the Canelo catchweight, that's it.

            And Maidana does belong in the ring with Mayweather, he's proven he's a top contender in Mayweather's weight class so therefore he's a worthy challenger.

            Khan doesn't, obviously.
            I wanted Floyd to fight:
            Margarito
            Cotto
            The Punisher
            Martinez
            Lara.

            As I've told you before, I picked those guy because that's who Floyd would fight. Not because I believed they would win. In fact I told you if Floyd ever fought Martinez I'd be willing to bet my account on that fight. I've never wagered my e-points on those guys for a reason.

            You and I both Know Maidana is getting schooled by Floyd. I don't see how anyone would pretend to want to see it.
            Last edited by Bushbaby; 12-27-2013, 08:28 PM.

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            • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Pretty much repeating exactly what you said in your last post. Not going to change anything by just repeating it.

              And the last sentence doesn't correlate with your comments. Quite the opposite, actually.
              I remember after the Zab Judah fight, Lampley asked Lennox Lewis if Mayweather would face the best at 140-147 "like Oscar de la Hoya, Mosley or Hatton. Even Cotto".

              Incidentally, the original 3 Lampley mentioned were the subsequent 3 fights for Mayweather and the ones everybody wanted at the time. And yet, they are sometimes referred to as cherrypicks.

              It's just ridiculous.

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              • Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                I wanted Floyd to fight:
                Margarito
                Cotto
                The Punisher
                Martinez
                Lara.

                As I've told you before, I picked those guy because that's who Floyd would fight. Not because I believed they would win. In fact I told you if Floyd ever fought Martinez I'd be willing to bet my account on that fight. I've never wagered my e-points on those guys for a reason.

                You and I both Know Maidana is getting schooled by Floyd. I don't see how anyone would pretend to want to see it.
                Agreed, Floyd will absolutely dominate Maidana & Khan.

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                • Originally posted by danktrees View Post
                  morales going 1-5 in that 6 fight stretch when he lost to manny was a top 10 p4p? hatton struggling getting rocked by lazcano before the pacquiao fight was not top 10 p4p material. cotto also had his face broken in half by margarito before fighting manny. whether it was legal or not does not change that fact that he got royally messed up in that fight. and considering how badly he faded after 3-4 rounds, you'd have to say that he was not in top form. it wasnt like manny was working him over, cotto was competitive in the first 3 rounds then just faded for whatever reason. even tho he was old at the time i'll give you barrera, but marquez and manny fought very close while mayweather crushed him. you can say that marquez was older by then except for the fact that marquez was even older when he knocked manny out cold so the age thing does not matter. which brings me to my next point, of the 6 guys you listed, manny has losses against 3 of them.

                  not turning this into a mayweather vs. pacquiao thread but you make it sound like those 6 guys were in top form when manny fought them. the only one who was was marquez...bradley broke his ankles in the fight.

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                  • Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                    I wanted Floyd to fight:
                    Margarito
                    Cotto
                    The Punisher
                    Martinez
                    Lara.

                    As I've told you before, I picked those guy because that's who Floyd would fight. Not because I believed they would win. In fact I told you if Floyd ever fought Martinez I'd be willing to bet my account on that fight. I've never wagered my e-points on those guys for a reason.

                    You and I both Know Maidana is getting schooled by Floyd. I don't see how anyone would pretend to want to see it.
                    Are you lieing about those fighters or telling the truth?

                    "Mosley would knock him out" "Ortiz will beat him"

                    ...

                    "Oh, I was lieing then."

                    That's a beautiful Bob Arum-Esque spin from you. "Yesterday I was lieing, today I'm telling the truth".



                    So you didn't want Floyd to fight Mosley despite the fact you were extremely adamant that he'd knock him out and were shouting to the rooftops that Mayweather is ducking him and afraid of him? Yeah, right.

                    Not because you believed they would win? YOU SAID THEY WOULD WIN.

                    You were on here doing breakdowns as to why they would beat Mayweather.

                    Your classic line of "All Ortiz needs to do is pressure Mayweather, it's that easy. He will win the fight"

                    It doesn't matter why or what your excuse is as to why you've picked someone. You still picked them to beat him. What does that have to do with why you picked them? Why you picked them is irrelevant. You picked them to win the fight.

                    If you picked Mosley and Ortiz to beat Floyd, which you did, then it is literally impossible to consider those cherry picks because you picked them to beat him. How can a fighter possibly cherry pick a fighter that you think he'll lose to? It's impossible to have both options.

                    In your own words, Mayweather can't be a cherry picker. He only fights guys who will either beat him (In your opinion) or someone you openly are calling for him to fight.

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Are you lieing about those fighters or telling the truth?

                      "Mosley would knock him out" "Ortiz will beat him"

                      ...

                      "Oh, I was lieing then."

                      That's a beautiful Bob Arum-Esque spin from you. "Yesterday I was lieing, today I'm telling the truth".



                      So you didn't want Floyd to fight Mosley despite the fact you were extremely adamant that he'd knock him out and were shouting to the rooftops that Mayweather is ducking him and afraid of him? Yeah, right.

                      Not because you believed they would win? YOU SAID THEY WOULD WIN.

                      You were on here doing breakdowns as to why they would beat Mayweather.

                      Your classic line of "All Ortiz needs to do is pressure Mayweather, it's that easy. He will win the fight"

                      It doesn't matter why or what your excuse is as to why you've picked someone. You still picked them to beat him. What does that have to do with why you picked them? Why you picked them is irrelevant. You picked them to win the fight.

                      If you picked Mosley and Ortiz to beat Floyd, which you did, then it is literally impossible to consider those cherry picks because you picked them to beat him. How can a fighter possibly cherry pick a fighter that you think he'll lose to? It's impossible to have both options.

                      In your own words, Mayweather can't be a cherry picker. He only fights guys who will either beat him (In your opinion) or someone you openly are calling for him to fight.
                      Sheesh!

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