At least he's not holding up a sign saying I NEED TO FEED MY KIDS! I think Amir & Manny have the same loser advisers!
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Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread
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This will be more toe to toe than people realise.
People think PAC can't knock down or hurt Floyd, but you have to remember PAC's power is being highly underrated! He's no Lucas Matthysse for sure but he can definitely hurt you. Bradley has a cast iron chin, as does Rios. People say his power is faded but Rios went into a Clottey shell for 12 rounds, Bradley has awkward upper body movement and fast feet and Pac was still catching him.
Let's not forget how KO percentages can be misleading. Maidana can **** and hurt Floyd but what top fighters has he KO'd? He couldn't finish Khan, he beat up a blown up flat footed Adrien Broner and couldn't finish him... PAC put a 170lbs Clottey in a shell for 12 rounds, knocked down HOF chin in Mosley, annihilated Hatton, put Rios in a shell for 12 rounds and had his head looking like a basketball, knocked down Algieri 6 times..
Pac can definitely knock down Floyd, and Floyd can still knock down PAC both have underrated pop.
PAC has ATG stamina but his work rate is declining, Floyd's workrate and reflexes are also declining heavily, for periods in that Maidana fight where Floyd was trapped in the corner I was thinking if that was Pac he would be on him like a hive of bees swarming him.
To beat Floyd you need a good straight left and Pac's is the best in the business (Floyd has always been vulnerable to straight left hands) you need speed (only maybe ONE fighter Judah matched him for speed but his stamina is poor) you need a stellar gas tank (Pac has phenomenal stamina, better than Floyd's). Pac has the ingredients to make this one heck of a fight and I see it as being very close.
Remember, almost every southpaw Floyd has faced gave him trouble, yeah he won, but the southpaws he faced simply weren't very good, that shoulder roll defence is not designed for southpaws.
Larry Merchant said it in the beginning of the Corley fight.
''After Mayweather's only experience with a southpaw, actually a conventional fighter who turned southpaw, his father Floyd Sr called from prison to tell his handlers, don't ever put him in with a southpaw again''
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post"Mayweather holds every advantage outside of manny throwing odd shots and maybe one shot power."
No, he doesn't. Manny is faster of hand and foot than Floyd. Manny is naturally stronger than Floyd. Mayweather may be a better inside fighter BUT Manny never cared about inside fighting. WHY? Because he has fast feet, strong legs, and great stamina. Floyd will not get to fight him inside. Manny won't let him. His arm length WILL be neutralized by Manny's ability to control distance and range. Just look at how he took away CA's jab and combination punching. Hoya's jab. Cheeto's jab. Cotto's jab. Clottey's jab. Bradley's jab and combination punching. Truth is, I expect Manny to bust Floyd's face up and outpoint him. Floyd is a bit overrated and now he's OLD as well. I cannot wait for this fight! Floyd needs another beating. The Maidana fights wasn't enough for me.
As a result. He is pricing himself up to duck the biggest pay check he can ever get as a professional boxer.
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Good post........
I think so as well. Floyd will bring it because he doesn't want to be embarrassed or lose to Manny of all fighters; but Manny is the hungrier fighter at this stage. Floyd is too rich for his own good. Manny is built to fight the BIG fights and will not disappoint. He loves being the under dog and he doesn't like Floyd. Manny is BACK! Floyd is aging FAST! I smell an upset. I DARE FLOYD TO SIGN!
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostI think so as well. Floyd will bring it because he doesn't want to be embarrassed or lose to Manny of all fighters; but Manny is the hungrier fighter at this stage. Floyd is too rich for his own good. Manny is built to fight the BIG fights and will not disappoint. He loves being the under dog and he doesn't like Floyd. Manny is BACK! Floyd is aging FAST! I smell an upset. I DARE FLOYD TO SIGN!
His money dealings is his biz....the time it takes us to piss they spend ten grand
PAC ain't that bad off...Manny looks like he is back with nothing but non ww punchers since his ko loss...even money may hits harder than than Rios , bradley n algieri @ ww
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostManny isn't rich?
His money dealings is his biz....the time it takes us to piss they spend ten grand
PAC ain't that bad off...Manny looks like he is back with nothing but non ww punchers since his ko loss...even money may hits harder than than Rios , bradley n algieri @ ww
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Did you read?
Who said anything about Manny not being rich? My point is, Manny is a legacy fighter and always have been. Floyd is a prize fighter. At the end of the day, that may determine this fight. Manny is clearly hungrier than the much richer, Floyd at this point. Floyd just wants the money. To Manny, this fight is personal. All of the trash that Floyd has been talking for years, is about to catch up with him. He HAS to fight Manny next.
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostWho said anything about Manny not being rich? My point is, Manny is a legacy fighter and always have been. Floyd is a prize fighter. At the end of the day, that may determine this fight. Manny is clearly hungrier than the much richer, Floyd at this point. Floyd just wants the money. To Manny, this fight is personal. All of the trash that Floyd has been talking for years, is about to catch up with him. He HAS to fight Manny next.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostFloyd shows up to every rodeo...do you think as hard as he trains that he will come up short? Talk is cheap...everytime floyd faced stubborness he pushed back...pac hasnt as much hs doesn't switch gears or adapt as well.... Pac is an atg never the less
Tell your gay ass boxer to man-up. Your motor mouth mr excuse boxer has said too much. Talking and whining is over. It's time for the fists do the talking.
Tell your loud mouth boxer action speaks louder than words. Enough excuses. Time to man-up.Last edited by Spoon23; 01-05-2015, 04:03 AM.
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