The Klitschko's Are Unbeaten In Almost A Decade

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  • GeneralZod
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    #21
    Originally posted by KBRO
    Each title defense discussed.. Louis was defending as well as part of his record. Wba.. Wbc & IBF if I'm not mistaken all were involved in Louis's defenses & if they weren't.. ask yourself how many titlLISts did Louis have to beat to get his strap(s)... Klitschko's beat 2 to get there streak started.... IBF & WBC
    Joe Louis defeated three universally recognized world champions before gaining a title shot.

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    • KBRO
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      #22
      Originally posted by Michael Paine
      Louis beat the Champion, there wasn't titlist like there is now, the WBC and IBF didn't exist.
      There you go... that means the Klitschko's are DEFENDING MANY more titles in there defenses so even if they trail by one.. you can say they have more title defenses... thx & now I see why you wanted to word it 'championship' defenses.

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      • Jam Jars
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        #23
        Originally posted by KBRO
        There you go... that means the Klitschko's are DEFENDING MANY more titles in there defenses so even if they trail by one.. you can say they have more title defenses... thx & now I see why you wanted to word it 'championship' defenses.
        More titles splits up the "championship" if we want to be picky wlad isn't even the champ now because Vitali has a portion of the championship.

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        • KBRO
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          #24
          Originally posted by GeneralZod
          Joe Louis defeated three universally recognized world champions before gaining a title shot.
          Yeah but only one titlist to get the strap... The Klitschko's have beaten 4 just to be recognized as undisputed.. so unless these fine folks at the forums think beating one belt holder is more difficult than to beat 4 separate titlists to get the same recognition.. then your post is greatly flawed... Joe LOUIS 25 title defenses in a row.. The Klitschko's have about 40 titles defended in a row.

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          • boxingwind
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            #25
            Brewster KO'd one of them and Corrie beat the other?

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              #26
              the Klits should fight each other, that way there's 1 HW champ, and that would be good for boxing.

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              • KBRO
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                #27
                Originally posted by Michael Paine
                More titles splits up the "championship" if we want to be picky wlad isn't even the champ now because Vitali has a portion of the championship.
                Individulally both Klitschko's have disputed championships.. cumulatively they are the Undisputed heavyweight champions of the world & have been so for almost two & a half yrs.

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                  #28
                  You can't compare the 1940's system to the present. They both have it's flaws.

                  In one, you could hold on to your title for years and not get stripped, contenders could be ducked and deprived of a title shot forever because they're not connected; The title could be controlled by the mafia etc,.

                  And now you have four sanctioning body organizations with it's own faults. Wlad Klitschko might have an asterisk attached to his title defenses but I still view the full 15 title defenses as 15 title defenses. As in, he won a Title defended it until he won more titles and unified. He didn't become a "REAL" Champion because he defeated Ibragimov (who also wasn't a real Champion) or Chagaev (who wasn't a real Champion) or David Haye (who definitely wasn't a real champion).

                  It's his total accumulations of Championship wins that makes him a REAL CHAMPION. The overall body of work and the clear/dominant and consistent manner in which he did it (I.E. no split decision/robbery controversies).

                  So yes, all of his title defenses count.

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                  • KBRO
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by boxingwind
                    Brewster KO'd one of them and Corrie beat the other?
                    Are you qualified to be on this thread?

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                    • Jam Jars
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Cupo303
                      You can't compare the 1940's system to the present. They both have it's flaws.

                      In one, you could hold on to your title for years and not get stripped, contenders could be ducked and deprived of a title shot forever because they're not connected; The title could be controlled by the mafia etc,.

                      And now you have four sanctioning body organizations with it's own faults. Wlad Klitschko might have an asterisk attached to his title defenses but I still view the full 15 title defenses as 15 title defenses. As in, he won a Title defended it until he won more titles and unified. He didn't become a "REAL" Champion because he defeated Ibragimov (who also wasn't a real Champion) or Chagaev (who wasn't a real Champion) or David Haye (who definitely wasn't a real champion).

                      It's his total accumulations of Championship wins that makes him a REAL CHAMPION. The overall body of work and the clear/dominant and consistent manner in which he did it (I.E. no split decision/robbery controversies).

                      So yes, all of his title defenses count.
                      You mean like Vitali and the WBC?

                      They count as title defences not as Championship defences, he didn't become Champion until Chagaev.

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