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  • RiverCityMike
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    #11
    Originally posted by Exciterx23
    Chávez was in his prime when he faced Taylor, and everyone knows that Meldrick was schooling him. I forgot Whitaker, who also schooled him in 1993.

    I like Chávez, but slick boxers were his downfall.
    I totally agree, but I really feel like Chavez, especially seeing him in the state he was vs DLH, would've been able to eventually close the distance and get some things done. If Quartey can floor you, a prime JCC could knock you out.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RiverCityMike
      I totally agree, but I really feel like Chavez, especially seeing him in the state he was vs DLH, would've been able to eventually close the distance and get some things done. If Quartey can floor you, a prime JCC could knock you out.
      I agree JCC would have done something. Well, he actually won a few rounds in the rematch, but I think it was a bad style matchup. About the KD, it has more to do with speed. Chávez just did not have enough reflexes to compete with DLH when they fought. Quartey was fast and accurate when he got his rhythm.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Exciterx23
        I agree JCC would have done something. Well, he actually won a few rounds in the rematch, but I think it was a bad style matchup. About the KD, it has more to do with speed. Chávez just did not have enough reflexes to compete with DLH when they fought. Quartey was fast and accurate when he got his rhythm.
        Yeah, the KD with Quartey was a 'flash' KD and those do depend on being hit with something you don't see. And Quartey does have good snap on his shots, so that if you get caught with your feet together or in the middle of your own punch, he could score a KD. I agree.

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          #14
          The style would give JCC a lot of problems. DLH wouldn't be the easiest fight for a prime JCC, but I just think that he would win it somehow like he always managed to do. He was a great fighter inside and out. Like I told, Piggu, boxrec doesn't keep any secrets.

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            #15
            I see what you mean, but there's something else. Chávez could get to movers with moderate power like Taylor and Camacho, but DLH was a fast mover with lots of power. For example, if Chávez cut the ring on Taylor, Meldrick would pitty pat while Chávez landed the heavy ones. Against DLH, JCC was getting pummeled when he tried to cut the distance. I am not a DLH hugger, I just think his style was all wrong for any JCC.

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            • RiverCityMike
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              #16
              Originally posted by Exciterx23
              I see what you mean, but there's something else. Chávez could get to movers with moderate power like Taylor and Camacho, but DLH was a fast mover with lots of power. For example, if Chávez cut the ring on Taylor, Meldrick would pitty pat while Chávez landed the heavy ones. Against DLH, JCC was getting pummeled when he tried to cut the distance. I am not a DLH hugger, I just think his style was all wrong for any JCC.
              You could be right. It would break my heart though if it were true . JCC was my favorite fighter as a young fan. I had to come around to DLH. I didn't like him at first, but he's has earned my respect. I know that I would like to see such a fight if it were possible.

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                #17
                Originally posted by RiverCityMike
                You could be right. It would break my heart though if it were true . JCC was my favorite fighter as a young fan. I had to come around to DLH. I didn't like him at first, but he's has earned my respect. I know that I would like to see such a fight if it were possible.
                I would rather see Chávez vs. Mancini and Durán.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Exciterx23
                  I would rather see Chávez vs. Mancini and Durán.
                  THOSE would be wars. I think that JCC beats Mancini, but I'm not so sure about Duran if it were at like 135.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RiverCityMike
                    THOSE would be wars. I think that JCC beats Mancini, but I'm not so sure about Duran if it were at like 135.
                    I think the Mancini who faced Arguello and Chacón could have defeated Chávez. I think Durán would beat Chávez in a great war of inside fighting.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Exciterx23
                      I think the Mancini who faced Arguello and Chacón could have defeated Chávez. I think Durán would beat Chávez in a great war of inside fighting.
                      I feel like Mancini could've been stopped on cuts. JCC hardly ever showed signs of abuse, he wouldn't wear down to the pressure and the pace. If Chavez had any problems there it would be the weight. Mancini is a little bigger, like how you mention Arguello, 147 and even 140 were a bit out of where he is best at like 135. Duran, though, might be the greatest 135 lber of all time.

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