The number of empty seats at Rigo/Agbeko

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  • titan m
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    #51
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
    Personally, I would enjoy watching Rigo be a little more aggressive. I know it's not his style, but I've seen him tear through guys before. He did it with Willie Casey. He took Willie out in the first round on his home turf. Guille may have regarded Agbeko as more of a threat and didn't want to risk getting caught with something big. I don't know. Whatever the reasons are, I think Rigo is unnecessarily allowing his image and career to suffer.

    But I disagree with your assessment that Guille won't be seen on TV again. He's just too good, and he'll keep on winning. HBO supposedly didn't want to feature Rigo again after the Donaire fight (I don't know why. I thought it was a great fight.), but they gave him a date in AC. I hear that Showtime is happy to pick Guillermo up if HBO dumps him. He's not getting shut out. One way or another, "El Chacal" will be shown on TV, even if it's on an undercard.
    I agree 100% with this, he has been playing it safe lately, I used to tell people that were watching fights with me to check this guy out but now it seems even if he is dominating the fight he is happy to just cruise through and not try to turn it up at all and be more aggressive, its safety first for him now all of the time, its his prerogative and it wins him fights but its not winning him any new fans.

    I see people claim that if you don't enjoy it you don't understand what you are watching or you are a casual fan which is just nonsense, like any sport people enjoy different styles of play (or fighting), it doesn't mean you don't understand. He has shown in the past he can be more aggressive and still dominate but he doesn't seem interested in that now but right now is the time for him to make a name for himself and build a following, im not saying go out and be reckless but there are times when he could be more aggressive and make the fight himself instead of waiting on his opponent to do it.

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    • STREET CLEANER
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      #52
      I did notice that but they should hold some of his fights in the Miami area.

      Build the guy's fan base a bit like most fighters do.

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      • SlySlickSmooth
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        #53
        I turned the fight off after round 6. Agbeko pulled a Clottey.

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        • Twako
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          #54
          after this last fight, rigo would always be an undercard even to a rios, angulo, salido he's anticlimactic to a boxing event

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          • Big_L
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            #55
            I was there. It was a nice little crowd but people started leaving by the 4th round. by the time the fight was over there was very few people still there. I stayed and ended up getting pictures with smoger, casamayor, kellerman, lampley and ward.

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            • CubanGuyNYC
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              #56
              Originally posted by marvelousmatt
              The simple truth is that Top Rank are trying to "rush" fighters to "superstardom" who have way too few fights. Rigo has what 13 fights and has fought 1 excellent fighter and 2 B level guys now. He is not a main event type fighter at this point and never will be. TR needs to build his brand,if he ever has one, and have him fight in Miami. He might even have a shot of drawing 400-600 fans there.

              Right now, no one wants to see him on tv or pay for the "free sleep." He is too afraid to get hit and mix it up.Lara is the same way but at least he will fight if forced to.

              Before I get accused of hating on the Cubans,its their styles that suck for tv & paying $$ to see. These 2 are no Gamboa or Mike Perez,thats for sure. I'll watch Gamboa & Mike Perez all day long.

              I also like the boxing purist style & can appreciate the greatness of Ward & Money May....but they take chances too & make exciting fights.

              In rounds 2-5,8,9,10,&11 in the Abegko fight, Rigo threw single digit punches that weren't pawing jabs.

              He is just not a tv fighter or someone that people will want to pay money for,period..
              Hernandez isn't too shabby, either. Lots of different styles in the Cuban system. Guys like Gamboa and Perez had ready-made pro styles, although the "hit and don't be hit" sensibility seems to be attached to Cuban fighters nowadays. There's some truth to that notion -- years of amateur dominance will do that -- but if you look at the history of Cuban boxing, it wasn't always that way at all. Kid Chocolate and Jose Napoles had wonderful styles. Kid Gavilan was as tough as they come, never afraid to mix it up. There isn't a die-hard Mexican fan that would find fault with his approach. Given time, the current crop of Cuban pros will adapt. Right now, even the most experienced Cuban pros don't have that many professional fights under their belts.

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              • CubanGuyNYC
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                #57
                Originally posted by SnakeVen0m
                BS, I was there personally. I don't lie to make Rigo look good either. A few people DID leave but the stands had a good amount of people there.
                Originally posted by Big_L
                I was there. It was a nice little crowd but people started leaving by the 4th round. by the time the fight was over there was very few people still there. I stayed and ended up getting pictures with smoger, casamayor, kellerman, lampley and ward.
                So, which one is it? As usual, it looks like a perception thing.

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                • Big_L
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                  So, which one is it? As usual, it looks like a perception thing.
                  the other poster might mean only a few people left after the tapia fight. which is true. most stayed for the start of the rigo fight but every round that passed, more and more people left. by the end not many people were left. maybe 100 or so.

                  I was able to move down and get a pound from the champ!

                  Last edited by Big_L; 12-11-2013, 01:01 PM.

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                  • StayCool
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                    #59
                    I paid for the $25 seats and by the second round of Rigo-Agbeko i was front row ringside sitting next to Frank Espinoza and the guy in the cowboy hat. People were piling out after the Kirkland fight. Probly 500 people left after the 12th round of Rigos fight. i asked the security guard "mind if me and my buddies jump in these 5 seats (ringside)" he says "yea this is live TV fill them up i dont give a ****" lol

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                    • marvelousmatt
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      Hernandez isn't too shabby, either. Lots of different styles in the Cuban system. Guys like Gamboa and Perez had ready-made pro styles, although the "hit and don't be hit" sensibility seems to be attached to Cuban fighters nowadays. There's some truth to that notion -- years of amateur dominance will do that -- but if you look at the history of Cuban boxing, it wasn't always that way at all. Kid Chocolate and Jose Napoles had wonderful styles. Kid Gavilan was as tough as they come, never afraid to mix it up. There isn't a die-hard Mexican fan that would find fault with his approach. Given time, the current crop of Cuban pros will adapt. Right now, even the most experienced Cuban pros don't have that many professional fights under their belts.
                      True,hopefully Rigo and Lara can adapt quickly to more of a fan-friendly pro style. I don't see it happening for Rigo. He paws too much and fights like an amateur trying to slap,move, and not get hit.

                      The MoneyMay comparasions are insulting as Rigo has not accomplished much as a pro who is in his 30's & still only had 13 fights.

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