Mayweather needs to fight Lara..Bottom line..

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  • Holywarrior
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    #401
    He certainly needs consideration instead of friggen Khan that's for sure.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #402
      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
      The reason for me making the thread is cause I respect Floyd and want to pay to see him in fights where the outcome is not something I can see playing out in my head..Like his fights with Hoya Mosley JLC(1 and 2)Hernandez(one of my fav performances)Chavez(when he was young)..Lately May has taken some real soft touches bro,you can not deny this..This Maidana fight is another one..A guy who is playing from behind the 8ball..

      Floyd won a belt at JMW more then 3 times..Yes I believe he can fight there and be effective there..I'm not calling for Tim to fight Mayweather cause like you said,Tim stayed with TR..So why call for something so unrealistic..Do you see me in any Mayweather Pac threads at all??No,not at least until that fight has a real shot at being made..I can care less..Here this fight can be made..It's the best fight that can be made for May on the GBP stable..

      I'm a believer in a good fight sells it self(with the right promotion of course lol)I believe this fight will sell..I understand Floyd makes money on the side from concession movie tickets etc etc..He could still make that with Lara..I just feel a good fight is a good fight..I also don't see why this fight could not happen..There is no legit reason bro..
      OK. I can understand this point. If you can't see the opponent winning, maybe the problem isn't the opponent but the self realization that floyd just may be one of the greatest to ever do it. I can agree that Ghost and Maidana are not the best ww's he can fight in a perfect word.

      I don't know about playing behind the 8 ball though-the reality is the top 3 ww's-Tim, Manny and JMM would all be 3-1 underdogs at least.

      Have you asked yourself why GBP isn't pushing this fight? What do they have to lose?
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-04-2014, 11:10 AM.

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      • John Locke
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        #403
        Originally posted by BigZigga
        Floyd is a better boxer than Lara. I think people on NSB overrated that guy. His work rate isn't high enough to win a decision against Floyd. I just can't see him winning the fight and it would be an awful fight anyway. You think if Carlos Molina was able to outbox Lara, the best boxer at 154 wouldn't be able to?
        Floyd is a better 'boxer' but they're not worlds apart in that department. Lara has the natural size and power advantage. Floyd wouldn't be able to tag him like he's been tagging some of the walking punchbags he's fought recently. It would be an 'awful' fight for people who don't appreciate the s technical side of the game.

        And using triangle theories to validate a point isn't a smart move. Styles make fights etc. Molina didn't outbox Lara, he spoiled throughout the fight. I had Lara winning it anyway, but that's besides the point.

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        • SplitSecond
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          #404
          lara probabley doesn't even make it past canelo

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          • Rome-By-Ko
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            #405
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            OK. I can understand this point. If you can't see the opponent winning, maybe the problem isn't the opponent but the self realization that floyd just may be one of the greatest to ever do it. I can agree that Ghost and Maidana are not the best ww's he can fight in a perfect word.

            I don't know about playing behind the 8 ball tough-the reality is the top 3 ww's-Tim, Manny and JMM would all be 3-1 underdogs at least.

            Have you asked yourself why GBP isn't pushing this fight? What do they have to lose?


            A huge draw,should Mayweather lose to Lara..I mean could you imagine how bad it would be if Lara beat Mayweather..Lara would never be Mayweather(drawing wise)..That's something very big to lose..Hell it's the same reason they taking their time on matching Alvarez with Lara..

            They may all be underdogs..May is clearly one of the ATG,best that ever do it,can't co-sign that one..It's cause of things like this that I can't..Ortiz Guerrero Alvarez(although I give Floyd major credit for Alvarez)just is not how I measure up best to ever do it..Now check this list out..

            Martinez
            Lara
            Bradley
            Pac..

            This will show if he was the best to ever do it..

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              #406
              Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
              So if we let the worldwide public choose Floyds next opponent he would have been fighting Khan..Yet that's not who he's fighting..Ya know why it's a joke of a fight(would have made more money tho)..May was able to his foot down on that and choose a better opponent..Yet when met with the option of Lara and Maidana..Nothing,no foot down..Yet I'm the one who is ignorant and you can't even understand the point being made within the thread..For ****ks sake...This guy is just ******..Helps me make my point..
              That's because the difference between Khan and Maidana was slight either way. Both guys are known and marketable though.

              How many black cuban boxers do you know what are marketable? Do you think anyone outside of hardcore fans knows who Lara is?

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              • V.WEBB
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                #407
                Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
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                A huge draw,should Mayweather lose to Lara..I mean could you imagine how bad it would be if Lara beat Mayweather..Lara would never be Mayweather(drawing wise)..That's something very big to lose..Hell it's the same reason they taking their time on matching Alvarez with Lara..

                They may all be underdogs..May is clearly one of the ATG,best that ever do it,can't co-sign that one..It's cause of things like this that I can't..Ortiz Guerrero Alvarez(although I give Floyd major credit for Alvarez)just is not how I measure up best to ever do it..Now check this list out..

                Martinez
                Lara
                Bradley
                Pac..

                This will show if he was the best to ever do it.
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                He never said he was the best to ever do it. Said he was one of the best to ever do it. Big difference. And fighting the guys you listed isn't going to make him the best to ever do it anyways.

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #408
                  Originally posted by V.WEBB
                  He never said he was the best to ever do it. Said he was one of the best to ever do it. Big difference. And fighting the guys you listed isn't going to make him the best to ever do it anyways.
                  It would give him more of a case to measure up to guy's like Duran SRL SRR ALI so on and so forth..Pretty much get him in the top 20 or top 10 talk...

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #409
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
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                    A huge draw,should Mayweather lose to Lara..I mean could you imagine how bad it would be if Lara beat Mayweather..Lara would never be Mayweather(drawing wise)..That's something very big to lose..Hell it's the same reason they taking their time on matching Alvarez with Lara..

                    They may all be underdogs..May is clearly one of the ATG,best that ever do it,can't co-sign that one..It's cause of things like this that I can't..Ortiz Guerrero Alvarez(although I give Floyd major credit for Alvarez)just is not how I measure up best to ever do it..Now check this list out..

                    Martinez
                    Lara
                    Bradley
                    Pac..

                    This will show if he was the best to ever do it..
                    Canelo is a GBP fighter, floyd is not. GBP would still be promoting floyd's fights for a percentage(of course it woud be lower) and would still get Lara who would surely get some type of boost in fans fom beating floyd.

                    Yes, him going up to MW as a ww and beating sergio would've enhanced his legacy. But not doing that doesn't affect his legacy. Bradley and Manny-we know why the fights haven't happened. Lara, respectfully, doesn't bring the same legacy enhancements as beating the others would.

                    I didn't say he was the the best to ever do it, I said perhaps you realize he is one of the best and that is why you can't see how world class fighters can't beat him.

                    SO out of a career of 45 fights-the fact he fought ghost, ortiz and canelo after age 34 weighs more heavily on his career ranking than other wins? Thats a tough standard.

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                    • dan_cov
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                      #410
                      Originally posted by The Guillotine
                      lara does not have the punch output to beat floyd. floyd would outbox him in one of the most boring fights ever made. i hope for everyones sake that this fight never gets put together.

                      All these guys have output until they face a B-Hop, Floyd, Lara, Rigondeaux.
                      The more you open up the more openings you leave and that applies to any fighter.

                      What makes you think volume is key?

                      Floyd thrives off volume punchers hence he is fighting Maidana next. He don't want none of a rangy, fast, slick, fleet footed, Cuban counterpuncher. He had problems with much smaller, weaker, frankly horse**** versions of Lara in Judah & Corley, he'll be right out of his comfort zone against Lara who won't care about initiating.

                      4 fights left and all 4 will be flat-footed, slow garbage. He isn't fighting nobody that isn't made to order.

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