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  • Zano-24
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    #11
    Originally posted by YOKOMOHOYO
    I believe Rigo could have finished Agbeko. Picked him apart. Finished him and beat him to a pulp.

    But it's not in him or his style.
    No duh he is a counter puncher. This is how counter punchers fight. Take a note from JMM. Wonder why JMM looked the way he did vs Bradley? Because he is a counter puncher. He waits for his opponents to attack and he follows up. These guys always looks more exciting vs come forward opponents that throw alot of punches because then you can see them put in some real work and damage. If they are fighting a guy that doesn't really do that much or fights at a slow pace then these are the fights you will see. This is why the Nonito vs Rigo fight looked the way it did because they are both pure counter punchers. Nonito tried to be aggressive but after getting hit and feeling that power he backed off and waited for Rigo to throw first. Rigo has the skills to actually box though to win rounds.

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    • MODAPHUKA
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      #12
      Originally posted by PBP
      Could Donaire have finished Navaraez?

      He's a known finisher who was just up against a guy that wouldn't engage.
      Narvaez did NOT go into survival mode the way Agbeko did. Don't even try that. Narvaez and Donaire didn't have such a gap in talent. Narvaez was obviously being dominated but still throwing. He wasnt as scared as Agbeko of getting koed.

      Agbeko couldn't find anything to hit and was getting pot shot. Rigo just doesn't have it in him to be more aggressive.

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      • DoktorSleepless
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        #13
        Originally posted by Zano-24
        No duh he is a counter puncher. This is how counter punchers fight. Take a note from JMM. Wonder why JMM looked the way he did vs Bradley? Because he is a counter puncher. He waits for his opponents to attack and he follows up. These guys always looks more exciting vs come forward opponents that throw alot of punches because then you can see them put in some real work and damage. If they are fighting a guy that doesn't really do that much or fights at a slow pace then these are the fights you will see. This is why the Nonito vs Rigo fight looked the way it did because they are both pure counter punchers. Nonito tried to be aggressive but after getting hit and feeling that power he backed off and waited for Rigo to throw first. Rigo has the skills to actually box though to win rounds.
        JMM is actually an example of a counter puncher by trade that knows how dismantle guys on the inside without resorting to defensive pot shoting the entire fight. Rigo just isn't as versatile.
        Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 12-08-2013, 02:18 AM.

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        • MODAPHUKA
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          #14
          Originally posted by Zano-24
          No duh he is a counter puncher. This is how counter punchers fight. Take a note from JMM. Wonder why JMM looked the way he did vs Bradley? Because he is a counter puncher. He waits for his opponents to attack and he follows up. These guys always looks more exciting vs come forward opponents that throw alot of punches because then you can see them put in some real work and damage. If they are fighting a guy that doesn't really do that much or fights at a slow pace then these are the fights you will see. This is why the Nonito vs Rigo fight looked the way it did because they are both pure counter punchers. Nonito tried to be aggressive but after getting hit and feeling that power he backed off and waited for Rigo to throw first. Rigo has the skills to actually box though to win rounds.
          He plays it too safe. I know all the things you said are true. I know that , but he isn't just a defensive wizard. He has great combinations. Speed , pop , balance , reflexes , he has all those things. But he will not become the aggressor for even a minute.

          JMM does. JMM has killer instinct in him , and he isn't as good as Rigo. JMM has inside game. He can fight up close. And he has a chin.

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          • littlemac
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            #15
            Only thing Rigo lacks is having an opponent at his level.

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            • -PBP-
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              #16
              Originally posted by YOKOMOHOYO
              Narvaez did NOT go into survival mode the way Agbeko did. Don't even try that. Narvaez and Donaire didn't have such a gap in talent. Narvaez was obviously being dominated but still throwing. He wasnt as scared as Agbeko of getting koed.

              Agbeko couldn't find anything to hit and was getting pot shot. Rigo just doesn't have it in him to be more aggressive.
              LOL. It was the same fight.


              With that said, its not so much lack of killer instinct its making the adjustment from the amateur style to the pro style. He's had over 400 amateur fights where the objective is to build a lead and protect it and only 13 pro fights.

              As he gains experience at the pro level I think you will see him put punches together, fight in the pocket more and develop and inside game.

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              • MODAPHUKA
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                #17
                Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                JMM is actually an example of a counter puncher by trade that knows how dismantle guys on the inside without resorting to defensive pot shoting the entire fight.
                Thank You!!!!

                I just tried to say the same. Put it in other words.

                Rigo lacks those things I said. That's why he will always bore the crowd. It's not in him to blitz his opponent and finish him. And it's crazy because he can pick apart anyone they put in front of him.

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                • DannYankee
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                  #18
                  He took the guy's soul took and turned a guy who throws 100 punches per round hit him so hard he threw 4. And pitched a shutout literally i haven't seen that actually i cant remember last time i saw that at championship level he had the same effect on this guy to a bigger extent that he had on Donaire diff is he did take Donaire's punches and gave him some back every time which kills your chin argument right there dead and buried. He may not go ballz to the wall but Agbeko is a fighter who has never ever been stopped and he usually fights reckless how the fk was Rigondeaux supposed to take him out when he was weary and scared hands up all the time break his leg?

                  Only thing Rigo lacks is an opponent of his same class that wont **** his pants when he gets countered by a hard body shot.

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                  • MODAPHUKA
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    LOL. It was the same fight.


                    With that said, its not so much lack of killer instinct its making the adjustment from the amateur style to the pro style. He's had over 400 amateur fights where the objective is to build a lead and protect it and only 13 pro fights.

                    As he gains experience at the pro level I think you will see him put punches together, fight in the pocket more and develop and inside game.
                    I don't agree with both being the same fights. But it doesn't matter.

                    I agree with the other points you made. He doesn't even need to become a punching machine. A few more punches per round could be the difference. He lands with such command , flush , with power speed , balanced. He knows how to pit every ounce of power behind his shots. No movements are wasted.

                    He could be doing a bit more damage as rounds go by. I'm not expecting him to blaze his opponents in 1 round either.

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                    • MODAPHUKA
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by littlemac
                      Only thing Rigo lacks is having an opponent at his level.
                      Agbeko should have been out of there in 7. Don't come with that "Agbeko is tough , he's king Kong".

                      Rigo lacks those things.

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