Mayweather Pacquaio can happen but no Arum and 50/50 split

[Deevel916]

Posting a video has nothing to do with who the boss is. Simple question - So you think Manny makes the call? A yes or no will suffice.

What does this have to do with Floyd constantly moving the goal post and having a different reason why he wont fight Pac?

To answer your question..NO. Manny is a great fighter but a dumb business man. Arum makes the call when it comes to Manny. Once again, what does this have to do with Floyd not having a problem with Arum being part of the fight up until Pac accepted all his testing terms?

[B Phontain]

At first Floyd offered a flat fee of $40mil. In later interviews he stated that he offered Pac the $40mil but that Pac would have to agree to that FIRST then later on they can talk about the "back end". Who's gonna sign off on a deal like that? Floyd is basically saying "Sign the contract for 40mil and I'll tell you how much ppv revenue I'm willing to split with you after the fact". LOL

......so what your saying is that you've never seen floyd say no ppv either but that he did say something about pac getting a ppv split aka "back end" right gotcha

[Deevel916]

......so what your saying is that you've never seen floyd say no ppv either but that he did say something about pac getting a ppv split aka "back end" right gotcha

I've read/seen video of him saying both. Even with his back end comment. Would you take that offer without knowing what the back end is until you first accept the 40mil offer? Floyd can come back and say "ok I'll give you %2 percent and I'll keep the rest". That was not a serious offer.

[48cantCstraight]

In other words it can't happen

[B Phontain]

I've read/seen video of him saying both. Even with his back end comment. Would you take that offer without knowing what the back end is until you first accept the 40mil offer? Floyd can come back and say "ok I'll give you %2 percent and I'll keep the rest". That was not a serious offer.

isnt that what negotiating is for? one man offers a deal then you counter. you dont just say no to the highest guaranteed purse of your career and perhaps ever in boxing without at least a counter offer. Like hey i'll take it but i want 20% or something. oh and by the way DOWN GOES TROUT!!!!! LARA FTW LOL (random)

[Deevel916]

isnt that what negotiating is for? one man offers a deal then you counter. you dont just say no to the highest guaranteed purse of your career and perhaps ever in boxing without at least a counter offer. Like hey i'll take it but i want 20% or something. oh and by the way DOWN GOES TROUT!!!!! LARA FTW LOL (random)

Do u really need me to post the video of Floyd saying that before anything Pac MUST accept the 40mil? You're right. That is what negotiations are for. Team Pac felt it was a low blow offer that wasnt serious and Arum even countered the offer with a better offer that Floyd never responded to.

I even found this:

"We had an offer, a legitimate offer on the table for 180 million dollars and people due to fight and had a big upside of 180 for the two fight camps. That's when he said 55-45 which would've given Mayweather 100 million. (Pacquiao) would've ended up with 80 million and that's still a lot of money right? But Mayweather will not fight him. Now why am I saying that? I'm not saying it to be, I know the guy and I know what his problem is, Mayweather, because we had him for 10 and a half years and his problem was he hated, he never wanted to face a southpaw and a southpaw that can move and punch with his left hand makes Mayweather completely vulnerable. All you have to do was watch him in the (DeMarcus) Corley fight where he didn't realize Corley was one when he made the fight. Corley shook him up and had him in trouble. Why? Because Mayweather is a sensational defensive fighter but that's against an orthodox guy. If he goes against a southpaw he opens himself up. You saw that happen in the Cotto fight because Cotto is a right handed fighter but he's really a southpaw that's converted and Cotto hurt him because he doesn't have a good defense to the left hand."

[MayMosPeaHop]

What does this have to do with Floyd constantly moving the goal post and having a different reason why he wont fight Pac?

To answer your question..NO. Manny is a great fighter but a dumb business man. Arum makes the call when it comes to Manny. Once again, what does this have to do with Floyd not having a problem with Arum being part of the fight up until Pac accepted all his testing terms?

Since the answer is no, then why are you trying to create a false narrative? Arum has to agree to make the fight. Manny saying something on tv or in print means nothing. Arum proved by stopping negotiations and fighting Clottey back in 09 that he would not make the fight. Everyone assumed it was over drug testing or not being able to work with Floyd or his team. The truth is he did not believe Manny could win. Why is that so hard to believe? Do you consider that moving the goal posts or was that just a business decision. When FMJ fought on May 5 before going to jail? Was the cut on Manny's eye or the stadium being built moving the goal posts or just a business decision? The fact that Arum states drug testing is not a issue, proves that he did not want to make the fight back in 09. Everyone wants the fight but Bob Arum. There is no other conclusion that can be made. Damn, even Freddie Roach was quoted saying, " I really hope that Bob [Arum] makes that fight happen for us." But it is Floyd's fault.

http://www.latinopost.com/articles/1443/20131127/freddie-roach-floyd-mayweather-needs-manny-pacquiao-for-ppv-amir-khan-bout-won-t-sell.htm

[adrian16]

IMO its just a way of Shaefer to actually making this fight happen. Who doesnt want a most likely $100 million purse anyway? If this fight doesnt happen is a simple lose lose situation. At the end of the day money talks no?

[luisivich]

Exactly. Manny wants to fight now? He can forget about even split of the money.

I'm certain Arum will throw up another road block soon. Which is why May doesn't care whether the fight gets made or not at this point.

Manny needs HIM, not the other way around.

Floyd fought Cotto for a title and at a higher weight without Arum.

who's really creating roadblocks?
lets define "creation" first.
cre·a·tion
noun \krē-ˈā-shən\
: the act of making or producing something that did not exist before : the act of creating something

1.blood test: had mayweather demanded any blood test previous to pacquiao negotiations
2.beat bradley and marquez first: does mayweather ask any fighter to beat such and such fighter before.
3.leave arum: had he ask any fighter other than pacquiao to leave his promoter.
4.flat fee. had he ask any fighter belonging to top 10 p4p a flat fee without any share of the pvp whatsoever.
5. relevance of a fighter: he had ask for a relevance of a fighter considered fighter of the decade.

http://postimg.org/image/t5eizen03/

[adrian16]

who's really creating roadblocks?
lets define "creation" first.
cre·a·tion
noun \krē-ˈā-shən\
: the act of making or producing something that did not exist before : the act of creating something

1.blood test: had mayweather demanded any blood test previous to pacquiao negotiations
2.beat bradley and marquez first: does mayweather ask any fighter to beat such and such fighter before.
3.leave arum: had he ask any fighter other than pacquiao to leave his promoter.
4.flat fee. had he ask any fighter belonging to top 10 p4p a flat fee without any share of the pvp whatsoever.
5. relevance of a fighter: he had ask for a relevance of a fighter considered fighter of the decade.

http://postimg.org/image/t5eizen03/

The only so called road block here is actually Mayweather, if he say yes to the fight its should be on already. Enough BS.