breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

[JAB5239]

List updated with the addition of Muhammad Ali

Muhammad Ali 27
Joe Louis 19
Evander Holyfield 18
Ezzard Charles 18
Jersey Joe Walcott 17
Floyd Patterson 16
Larry Holmes 15
Lennox Lewis 14
Joe Frazier 12
Mike Tyson 12
Primo Carnera 12
George Foreman 11
Sonny Liston 10
Wladimir Klitschko 10
Rocky Marciano 9
Vittles Klitschko 6
James Braddock 5

[JAB5239]

Ken Norton has fought 11 top 10 ranked fighters. He's fought Holmes, Cooney, Shavers, LeDoux, Young, Quarry, Foreman, Ali 3x and Jose Luis Garcia.

[JAB5239]

List updated with the addition of Ken Norton

Muhammad Ali 27
Joe Louis 19
Evander Holyfield 18
Ezzard Charles 18
Jersey Joe Walcott 17
Floyd Patterson 16
Larry Holmes 15
Lennox Lewis 14
Joe Frazier 12
Mike Tyson 12
Primo Carnera 12
George Foreman 11
Ken Norton 11
Sonny Liston 10
Wladimir Klitschko 10
Rocky Marciano 9
Vittles Klitschko 6
James Braddock 5

[StarshipTrooper]

Muhammad Ali fought 27 top 10 rated fighters. He fought Liston 2x, Patterson 2x, Chuvalo, Terrell, Quarry 2x, Bonavena, Frazier 3x, Ellis, Foster, Norton 3x, Foreman, Wepner, Lyle, Bugner, Young, Evangelista, Shavers, Spinks, Holmes and Berbick.

That's really just a sick (good sick) resume......

[JAB5239]

That's really just a sick (good sick) resume......

It really is. I'm contemplating moving Ali ahead of Louis on my all time top 10 heavyweight list and readjusting a new tip 20 p4p list. I usually don't include heavyweights, but when you look at it like this its pretty damn impressive.

[StarshipTrooper]

It really is. I'm contemplating moving Ali ahead of Louis on my all time top 10 heavyweight list and readjusting a new tip 20 p4p list. I usually don't include heavyweights, but when you look at it like this its pretty damn impressive.

Yeah, I'm against putting Heavies on p4p lists and have caught some flak for it. I generally don't like p4p anyway and think they're bull**** for anything more than a fun exercise in the meaningless :hah9:

[miamike]

It is not fair to compare resumes with Louis and Ali. Nobody believes the Klitschko's could be compared with them. They have done really well in this era tho.

[billeau2]

yea,,the size thing does get ridiculously overrated on here

Thats because you guys don't really get it see? its not just that modern fighters have gotten bigger, they have actually evolved. Over the course of one or two generations today's fighters have gotten bigger, faster, and a lot smarter also! Even though it takes most species thousands of years humans are special. If you were to take the skeleton of Joe Louis and a Klit brother you would find that the Louis skeleton practically just lost the tail at the Sacral area of the spine. The Klit skeleton would meanwhile have extra vertabrea fused in from our adaptation to gravity....producing incredible punching power like the ancients have never seen.

And all those old trainers....like Futch were superstitious. Today's trainers are totally scientific!

[JAB5239]

It is not fair to compare resumes with Louis and Ali. Nobody believes the Klitschko's could be compared with them. They have done really well in this era tho.

They're good fighters in a bad era. And it doesn't help them they don't face more top 10 comp, especially Vits.

[StarshipTrooper]

Thats because you guys don't really get it see? its not just that modern fighters have gotten bigger, they have actually evolved. Over the course of one or two generations today's fighters have gotten bigger, faster, and a lot smarter also! Even though it takes most species thousands of years humans are special. If you were to take the skeleton of Joe Louis and a Klit brother you would find that the Louis skeleton practically just lost the tail at the Sacral area of the spine. The Klit skeleton would meanwhile have extra vertabrea fused in from our adaptation to gravity....producing incredible punching power like the ancients have never seen.

And all those old trainers....like Futch were superstitious. Today's trainers are totally scientific!

You, Sir, made me spit my drink :hahahaha9: