Comments Thread For: Schaefer Lashes Out At Arum Over Mayweather-Pacquiao

[SoulByThePound]

Top Rank needs to step their game up, that was **** undercard.

as a TR AND BOB ARUM FAN i must say goldenboy puts on ****ty fights..The lighting in those fights are in fact poor i have to tweak my tv tuners for a good pic(sarcasm)

[Respect Power]

they didn't. It wasn't an obligation just like Hatton and odh didn't sign with TR. so why did the other guys?

you have no where to go here. if its ok to ask mosley/timm/jmm to sign with TR to get a manny fight its ok for floyd to ask manny to sign with TMT. its just that simple.

Manny deciding not to fight doesn't make floyd's requests obstacles. It makes manny not willing to fight.

The real question is why are things that other fighters routinely deal with-****ty deals, signing with rival promoters, ped testing, etc-always an obstacle for manny relative to the floyd fight but not an obstacle for anyone relative to a manny fight or any other fighter relative to a floyd fight?

We'll top rank didn't ask Floyd to sign with them. So what's ur point. Those other fighters signed with TR to get more fights with TR . Manny wants one fight. Floyd is not acting like someone who wants to fight at this time. Manny's not leaving arum and Floyd knows this. If u want to believe that manny staying with TR means he's ducking then fine. Your entitled to ur opinion , we all are.

[Frank Ducketts]

Can you truly believe that because Arum heard about the 19 day cuttoff before the Floyd and Shane fight that Pac and his people asked for a cutoff date...and that's why this fight hasn't been made. Why would you ask for a cutoff date for random testing, lmao?

[sapo13]

- No testing
- testing, but not random
- testing, but not within 21 days of the fight
- testing, but not within 14 days of the fight
- no testing, but we'll take less than 50%
- testing, but we want 50%
- we need to build a new outdoor stadium

.... yea, but it's mayweather with the excuses

don't forget

-mayweather going to jail in march for 90 days
Arum-manny will be ready in may to fight!!
mayweather gets a judge to push jail time till june
- manny will not be ready to fight till june!!!

Manny is ready to fight so long as mayweather is in jail!!!!

hahah!!! pac roid tards !!!

[The Big Dunn]

We'll top rank didn't ask Floyd to sign with them. So what's ur point. Those other fighters signed with TR to get more fights with TR . Manny wants one fight. Floyd is not acting like someone who wants to fight at this time. Manny's not leaving arum and Floyd knows this. If u want to believe that manny staying with TR means he's ducking then fine. Your entitled to ur opinion , we all are.

i never said or implied that. funny but you keep dodging the questions I pose.

Bottom line-Manny deciding not to fight doesn't make floyd's requests obstacles. the same things you call obstacles haven't stopped anyother fight or fighter just manny.

[Respect Power]

Bottom line-Manny deciding not to fight doesn't make floyd's requests obstacles. the same things you call obstacles haven't stopped anyother fight or fighter just manny.

Its not manny deciding not to fight , it's him deciding to not sign. I said those other fighters signed with tr to get more fights with tr. Manny wants one fight. If Floyd signed cotto , Ortiz , Guerrero , canelo then we would assume that's how he does business but he didn't . It is perceived as a obstacle because he has asked manny to leave tr and he doesn't really think he will. You say what I call obstacles hasn't stopped a fight but it woulda if Floyd tried these same tactics which he didn't need to cause he wanted those fights .

[hitking]

i never said or implied that. funny but you keep dodging the questions I pose.

Bottom line-Manny deciding not to fight doesn't make floyd's requests obstacles. the same things you call obstacles haven't stopped anyother fight or fighter just manny.

Dude, these cats know what the deal is. Their entire existance as fight fans revolves around Manny Pacquaio being this monster that scares the living **** outta Floyd. And nothing said or done will change their minds. You and I both have called every move Arum has made frame-by-frame. I have no sources inside the boxing community. And as far as I know, neither do you. So common sense suggests that there's something very calculating that Arum is doing here. And the reason we can call his moves is because he's repeated them countless times over the last couple years. If they coose to turn a blind eye to those facts, so be it. Let them live in their fairy tale universerve where Floyd, who would be about as big a favorite humanly possible in a fight of this magnitude is scared of Pac. Let them continue to spend their money watching bull**** like Pac-Rios. Let them spend their money to watch Pac beat Provo to a pulp. And let them spend their money to watch a Bradley rematch. Which will have a predetermined winner, which will be Pac, so that Arum can sell a rubbermatch to these dumb sum-*****s.

[The Big Dunn]

Its not manny deciding not to fight , it's him deciding to not sign. I said those other fighters signed with tr to get more fights with tr. Manny wants one fight. If Floyd signed cotto , Ortiz , Guerrero , canelo then we would assume that's how he does business but he didn't . It is perceived as a obstacle because he has asked manny to leave tr and he doesn't really think he will. You say what I call obstacles hasn't stopped a fight but it woulda if Floyd tried these same tactics which he didn't need to cause he wanted those fights .

you have no idea if they wanted more than the manny fight. you are posting that only because you think it mitigates it or makes it different from floyd's request.

Manny/bob didn't do that before so why do you say its only valid if floyd di it previously? thats ridiculous.

Its perceived as an obstacle only by posters who want to avoid criticizing manny for his poor decision making. Notice 10 mil weight penalty or glove size weren't obstacles.

PED testing has never been an obstacle for any other fighter so your point doesn't seem to hold much water. It also wasn't an obstacle for Rios.

You also have no idea what other fighters would do. All you know is the decisions manny made. His decisions resulted in the fight not happening.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

Schaefer has always wanted to be just like Bob Arum. These two deserve each other.

[Respect Power]

you have no idea if they wanted more than the manny fight. you are posting that only because you think it mitigates it or makes it different from floyd's request.

Manny/bob didn't do that before so why do you say its only valid if floyd di it previously? thats ridiculous.

Its perceived as an obstacle only by posters who want to avoid criticizing manny for his poor decision making. Notice 10 mil weight penalty or glove size weren't obstacles.

PED testing has never been an obstacle for any other fighter so your point doesn't seem to hold much water. It also wasn't an obstacle for Rios.

You also have no idea what other fighters would do. All you know is the decisions manny made. His decisions resulted in the fight not happening.

HE'S DUCKING !!!! Good bye