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  • Can Floyd wait for Thurman, just as he waited for Guerrero last year? Floyd v Thurman is more attractive.

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    • Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
      Good point, the style matchup would make it more entertaining than Floyd-Canelo and Floyd-Guerrero.


      Manny could have fought someone better than Rios but to be fair he was coming off a devastating loss.
      Thank you for emphasizing the double standard between the two fighters.
      Amir Khan is probably considered the better fighter between him and Brandon Rios based on their accomplishments and ability in the ring. Khan is probably a more dangerous fight for Mayweather than Rios was for Pac given their styles. But it is okay for Pac to fight a guy coming off of a loss because he got knocked out, but it isn't okay for Mayweather to fight a guy who is known to be chinny, simply because Mayweather hasn't lost and we know he is the best.
      Forget that Rios was incredibly limited. Forget that Khan is extremely talented and presents a unique threat to Floyd. Pac gets knocked out = he gets a pass. It is very clear based on this double standard that boxing fans know who the superior fighter is.

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      • Originally posted by KJB View Post
        But it is okay for Pac to fight a guy coming off of a loss because he got knocked out, but it isn't okay for Mayweather to fight a guy who is known to be chinny, simply because Mayweather hasn't lost and we know he is the best.
        Forget that Rios was incredibly limited. Forget that Khan is extremely talented and presents a unique threat to Floyd. Pac gets knocked out = he gets a pass. It is very clear based on this double standard that boxing fans know who the superior fighter is.
        Before Pac fought Rios look at his 3 fights prior! Floyd is threatening retirement and only has a limited fights left so of course people don't want him to waste the fights.
        If we knew Floyd would be fighting for much longer, it would be ok to fight khan, and then Garcia, and then GGG and then Martinez and then Pac.

        Floyd hardly fights so stop making him out as if he delivers more than he needs to. His first fight with Ortiz was memorable for the wrong reasons, and then Guerrero and weight drained Canelo.
        Its nothing to write home about. Pacs the superior fighter who takes risks, Floyd is the survival expert.
        But the khan fight is ok IMO, but not at the expense of fighting GGG, Martinez, Pac or Garcia.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 12-05-2013, 07:19 AM.

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Before Pac fought Rios look at his 3 fights prior! Floyd is threatening retirement and only has a limited fights left so of course people don't want him to waste the fights.
          If we knew Floyd would be fighting for much longer, it would be ok to fight khan, and then Garcia, and then GGG and then Martinez and then Pac.

          Floyd hardly fights so stop making him out as if he delivers more than he needs to. His first fight with Ortiz was memorable for the wrong reasons, and then Guerrero and weight drained Canelo.
          Its nothing to write home about. Pacs the superior fighter who takes risks, Floyd is the survival expert.
          But the khan fight is ok IMO, but not at the expense of fighting GGG, Martinez, Pac or Garcia.
          How can you claim Pac is taking more risks than Floyd when Pac was fighting Oscar, Hatton, Shane, etc AFTER Floyd? After Floyd shown how easy it is to beat Marquez's style-Pac still couldn't pass the test with flying colors. Hell, how can Rios be more of a risk than Guerrero or Canelo? I think a lot of this perception is smoke and mirrors.

          Pac isn't even the better fighter, definitely not in the ring.

          Why would you want Floyd to fight GGG or Martinez, but not expect the same of the other WW in Pac? Some weird expectation from you guys.
          Last edited by damned1974; 12-05-2013, 07:38 AM.

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          • Originally posted by KJB View Post
            Thank you for emphasizing the double standard between the two fighters.
            Amir Khan is probably considered the better fighter between him and Brandon Rios based on their accomplishments and ability in the ring. Khan is probably a more dangerous fight for Mayweather than Rios was for Pac given their styles. But it is okay for Pac to fight a guy coming off of a loss because he got knocked out, but it isn't okay for Mayweather to fight a guy who is known to be chinny, simply because Mayweather hasn't lost and we know he is the best.
            Forget that Rios was incredibly limited. Forget that Khan is extremely talented and presents a unique threat to Floyd. Pac gets knocked out = he gets a pass. It is very clear based on this double standard that boxing fans know who the superior fighter is.
            Yeah he gets a pass for fighting a low level opponent after getting knocked out cold, although like I said he could have picked somebody better than Rios. What's wrong with that? If Floyd gets KO'd I'd give him a pass too if he fought Peterson or somebody like that in his next fight. This has nothing to do with who is superior, its about a fighter's recent streak.

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            • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
              Why would you want Floyd to fight GGG or Martinez, but not expect the same of the other WW in Pac? Some weird expectation from you guys

              How can you claim Pac is taking more risks than Floyd when Pac was fighting Oscar, Hatton, Shane, etc AFTER Floyd?

              Pac isn't even the better fighter, definitely not in the ring.

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              Well, Floyd does less in general, takes lots of time off, so when he is going to fight, he might as well get into it and not mess about. He only has a few fights left and he needs to fight people who will make him level with Ali, SRR, Pac etc. Again, its no point messing aboiut now.

              So who was Floyd fighting these guys after. Who had beat DLH, SSM before Floyd, and nearly beat Hatton before Floyd? Yes, after fighting Floyd you improve, so Pac was fighting improved versions.

              Pac is the better fighter in the ring. Floyd supposed greatness is from an unbeaten record and cherry picking. Are we to believe Bradley is unbeaten now?

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Well, Floyd does less in general, takes lots of time off, so when he is going to fight, he might as well get into it and not mess about. He only has a few fights left and he needs to fight people who will make him level with Ali, SRR, Pac etc. Again, its no point messing aboiut now.

                So who was Floyd fighting these guys after. Who had beat DLH, SSM before Floyd, and nearly beat Hatton before Floyd? Yes, after fighting Floyd you improve, so Pac was fighting improved versions.

                Pac is the better fighter in the ring. Floyd supposed greatness is from an unbeaten record and cherry picking. Are we to believe Bradley is unbeaten now?
                He fought common opponents BEFORE Pac...how the hell did his opponents improve after fighting him???? wtf

                Pac a better boxer-hell no. His technique isn't half of Mayweather's. You cannot call Mayweather a cherry-picker without saying the same about Manny, simple as that. If anything, Floyd has been fighting guys coming off of wins, most of the time defining wins. Of course Pac has been fighting guys coming off of losses-sometimes just a few fights removed from career bad losses or bad ko's. Your logic is abstract.
                Last edited by damned1974; 12-05-2013, 08:02 AM.

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                • A fake BoxRec "capture" shows that they are listing the Floyd-Khan fight... In Vegas...
                  But when accessing the site there's no such a fight there (!)...

                  (http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=352&cat=boxer)

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                  • Originally posted by KJB View Post
                    Thank you for emphasizing the double standard between the two fighters.
                    Amir Khan is probably considered the better fighter between him and Brandon Rios based on their accomplishments and ability in the ring. Khan is probably a more dangerous fight for Mayweather than Rios was for Pac given their styles. But it is okay for Pac to fight a guy coming off of a loss because he got knocked out, but it isn't okay for Mayweather to fight a guy who is known to be chinny, simply because Mayweather hasn't lost and we know he is the best.
                    Forget that Rios was incredibly limited. Forget that Khan is extremely talented and presents a unique threat to Floyd. Pac gets knocked out = he gets a pass. It is very clear based on this double standard that boxing fans know who the superior fighter is.
                    Floyd is regarded as the superior fighter by most. But even most of his fans acknowledge that the fight with Khan brings nothing to the table except to see if Floyd's absolute safety-first style can generate a highlight reel knockout against the weak chin of Khan(I vote yes). Khan has talent, but not the discipline to apply that talent properly to give himself a chance against Floyd. He is very fast, but very easy for even a relatively plodding fighter like Julio Diaz to catch due to his lacking defense and sloppy offense. He doesn't have particularly good one punch power. And when Khan is caught, he gets hurt. He hasn't even gotten a big win in years. The fight is just another classic handpick job from Floyd, who simply does not have it in him to take even a small risk. Pacquiao and Martinez are clearly faded, but Floyd still won't fight either of them. GGG is good but has clear technical flaws, Floyd won't test that either. Floyd is about making money, not about fighting for legacy at all.

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                    • Originally posted by HitBattousai View Post
                      Floyd is regarded as the superior fighter by most. But even most of his fans acknowledge that the fight with Khan brings nothing to the table except to see if Floyd's absolute safety-first style can generate a highlight reel knockout against the weak chin of Khan(I vote yes). Khan has talent, but not the discipline to apply that talent properly to give himself a chance against Floyd. He is very fast, but very easy for even a relatively plodding fighter like Julio Diaz to catch due to his lacking defense and sloppy offense. He doesn't have particularly good one punch power. And when Khan is caught, he gets hurt. He hasn't even gotten a big win in years. The fight is just another classic handpick job from Floyd, who simply does not have it in him to take even a small risk. Pacquiao and Martinez are clearly faded, but Floyd still won't fight either of them. GGG is good but has clear technical flaws, Floyd won't test that either. Floyd is about making money, not about fighting for legacy at all.
                      FMJr has no business in fighting Golovkin (who's 160-168)...
                      As about the so called Golovkin's "clear technical flaws" I would rather like Andre Ward to "exploit" them...

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