Vitali Klitschko stops protestors from rioting. (Video)

[Boxing Goat]

Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT.

I've already explained numerous times why Vitali is the champ. Go look it up. I don't have time for people who choose to ignore previous points I've made.

If you don't like that, tough ****.

[Boxing Goat]

The WBC is one of the major four.

This ^^^^

It's also the most respected and the one that stems directly from Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis and then to Vitali.

It may be a paper title to some as there are 4 , plus the Ring title, but by these same bozos standards, there has almost never been a single world champ since the 4 sanctioning bodies were initiated because almost nobody has held all 4 titles at once.

To think that way is just plain and simple ignorance.

[Weltschmerz]

That's because you've been brainwashed by this ultra-nationalist propaganda. You know who takes-takes-takes? The big corporations and banks of your country, and they want developing countries to join the EU because it benefits them. More cheap labor and natural resources to exploit.


Yeah it's those developing countries that are responsible for the economic crisis, it's definitely not the big banks from wealthy countries. Those same banks that your government bailed out using your tax money. But keep blaming "the foreigners" like the good little drone that you are.


Expanding big business? Yes. Eroding the rights of the population? Have you looked at human rights abuses in Russia and Ukraine? Riot police beating people up (including journalists) like they stole something, people getting imprisoned for political reasons on a regular basis, etc.

Frankie Bruno is really an ignorant moron. He should just stay the hell out of threads like these.

[FrankieBruno]

What is it they take take take?

Free healthy care, social housing, JSA, living off the state, taking jobs via low wages, increasing class room sizes etc..

The influx of Eastern Europeans to the UK has been uncontrolled due to our open boarder policy, which we were forced to sign up to

We have many people coming in and using and abusing incentives which were designed to help British people in times of need. As well as being a huge burden on social housing, there is also a burden on schools and the NHS.

We are a small island and we weren't designed to house and give jobs to all new comers.

We simply don't have the infrastructures to cope with this influx of benefit abusers from foreign lands, as well many who are working for low wages in the job market, when our own are struggling to get houses and find jobs.

Mass immigration might work for the US, but for a small country such as ourselves, it simply cant go on like this anymore.

We need to have full control over our boarders, thus we need to get out of this EU experiment.

This has nothing to do with race or nationality, we are a multi cultured society, however there is a limit to what we can house


and throwing insults are me like a violent thug protestor because you are unable to debate says a lot about you.

[Weltschmerz]

Free healthy care, social housing, JSA, living off the state, taking jobs via low wages, increasing class room sizes etc..

The influx of Eastern Europeans to the UK has been uncontrolled due to our open boarder policy, which we were forced to sign up to

We have many people coming in and using and abusing incentives which were designed to help British people in times of need. As well as being a huge burden on social housing, there is also a burden on schools and the NHS.

We are a small island and we weren't designed to house and give jobs to all new comers.

We simply don't have the infrastructures to cope with this influx of benefit abusers from foreign lands, as well many who are working for low wages in the job market, when our own are struggling to get houses and find jobs.

Mass immigration might work for the US, but for a small country such as ourselves, it simply cant go on like this anymore.

We need to have full control over our boarders, thus we need to get out of this EU experiment.

This has nothing to do with race or nationality, we are a multi cultured society, however there is a limit to what we can house


and throwing insults are me like a violent thug protestor because you are unable to debate says a lot about you.

I understand your concerns, but blaming it on ordinary people who are just trying to create a better future for themselves is quite wrong. You talk about eastern European people as if they're subhumans invading your 'noble country'.

[KingTito]

I'll chime in on whether Vitali is a legitimate champion. While Wlad is of course the recognized #1, we can't ignore the fact that the WBC is recognized as one of the major championship belts.

[JAB5239]

The WBC is one of the major four.

The World Boxing Council or WBC is one of four major organizations recognized by the IBHOF which sanction world championship boxing bouts, alongside the IBF, WBA and WBO.

Don't act ****** and twist facts only because it suits your agenda.

Suzy, how am I twisting facts? Is it not a FACT we only live on one world? Therefore can't there be only ONE world champion? Wouldn't or shouldn't the rest of the ABC garbage be considered regional titles? And if its ok in your mind to have 4 major titles why not 6, 8 or 10? Tell me fella's, is boxing better off with these splintered, paper titles than it is with one champion (Wlad)?

[JAB5239]

This ^^^^

It's also the most respected and the one that stems directly from Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis and then to Vitali.

It may be a paper title to some as there are 4 , plus the Ring title, but by these same bozos standards, there has almost never been a single world champ since the 4 sanctioning bodies were initiated because almost nobody has held all 4 titles at once.

To think that way is just plain and simple ignorance.

This is exactly why you shouldn't buy into the theory an ABC strap makes someone a champion. It doesn't. Following a lineage and beating the best is what makes a world champion. Unless of course you have an agenda to fulfill. To think any other way is just plain and simple ignorance.

[JAB5239]

The WBC is one of the major four.

Davis Haye in your opinion must be one of the greatest heavyweight champions ever since he held the WBA title, the original. And thats funny because I've seen you post many times Haye was not a real champion. Lol, talk about agendas!

[JAB5239]

The World Boxing Council or WBC is one of four major organizations recognized by the IBHOF which sanction world championship boxing bouts, alongside the IBF, WBA and WBO.

Don't act ****** and twist facts only because it suits your agenda.

Here are the facts.....Besides the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO we also have the WBF (world boxing federation), IBU, IBO, IBA, GBU, NBA, PBF and WBF (world boxing foundation). You seem to think there is and should be more than one world champion, especially if the IBHOF is on board. Lets remember, this is a hall of fame, not a boxing deity. They let Barry McGuigan in for crying out loud!

What happens though when they let the IBO in and than the IBU? You think it may never happen but 25 years ago nobody was thinking some of us would be calling a WBO titlist a true world champion based on that merit alone. Bottom line is by accepting more than one world champion per division you're accepting the watering down of boxing.

So you see, the only agenda here is by those who want to be able to call Vits a champion even though the world can only have one. Wlad established this through lineage and resume.