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  • Originally posted by AddiX View Post
    Thanks for that answer..

    Crazy to think, Vitali gets to a part of all of this, because he pounds peoples faces in.
    Well, it's worth the remembering the often misinterpreted Clausewitzian maxim that 'violence is merely a continuation of politics by other means', but more relevantly that the political kingdoms of the European dark and early middle ages were based largely on the ability of the better trained (and equipped) nobility to beat the cr#p outta anyone who disagreed with them.

    Political power was originally about being both popular and hard as f#kk (though more the latter). Vitali probably woulda founded a dynasty a millenium ago.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 12-02-2013, 08:35 PM.

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    • Originally posted by A_Jeffrey View Post
      We are going to England to kick Hayes ass!
      Let's march there right now!
      He can't hide!
      LOL, can't lie I laughed my ass off at this.

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      • Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT.

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        • Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
          We here in the UK are fed up of the EU, and most likely want out because of 3rd world countries joining


          Ukraine obviously want to be part of EU as it benefits them, but this is the reason why GB should leave Europe, these 3rd world eastern Europe countries bring us nothing, they do is take take take
          That's because you've been brainwashed by this ultra-nationalist propaganda. You know who takes-takes-takes? The big corporations and banks of your country, and they want developing countries to join the EU because it benefits them. More cheap labor and natural resources to exploit.

          Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
          What contradiction?

          The EU experiment has been a huge failure because they started letting in countries with weak economies, these economies collapsed and then the wealthy ones are forced to bail them out only for them to fail again
          Yeah it's those developing countries that are responsible for the economic crisis, it's definitely not the big banks from wealthy countries. Those same banks that your government bailed out using your tax money. But keep blaming "the foreigners" like the good little drone that you are.

          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
          Having seen first hand some of the consequences on Greece (I'm half Greek btw) I wouldn't recommend any country joining the EU, which is at heart and beyond the sharing and co-operative image simply a vehicle for expanding the power of Banks and Big-business whilst eroding the rights and security of the national populations.
          Expanding big business? Yes. Eroding the rights of the population? Have you looked at human rights abuses in Russia and Ukraine? Riot police beating people up (including journalists) like they stole something, people getting imprisoned for political reasons on a regular basis, etc.

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          • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT.
            The WBC is one of the major four.

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            • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT.
              The World Boxing Council or WBC is one of four major organizations recognized by the IBHOF which sanction world championship boxing bouts, alongside the IBF, WBA and WBO.

              Don't act ****** and twist facts only because it suits your agenda.

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              • Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                Have to say I'm with you on this one. On the ground you've actually got politiacal figures from Poland and western Europe actively supporting what is rapidily becoming a major destabilisation of a legitimate democracy. Furthermore there are suggestions of organisation and funding for the activists/rioters or whatever being provided from the west.

                Western European ambitions have long been both to get their hands on the markets and natural resources of Ukraine and European Russia and limiting the power of the Russian Empire/ Soviet Union/ Russia.

                Having seen first hand some of the consequences on Greece (I'm half Greek btw) I wouldn't recommend any country joining the EU, which is at heart and beyond the sharing and co-operative image simply a vehicle for expanding the power of Banks and Big-business whilst eroding the rights and security of the national populations.

                Vitali may be genuine in his beliefs, but ultimately this is the EUs agenda he is pushing - it would seem very strange to me given that the EU can be seen to be failing in so many areas that any Country could see benefit in signing away it's economic sovereignty and control.
                I can see how the EU benefits, but Ukraine has little the EU wants beyond it's natural resources and markets to sell back the goods made with them.
                Correct. Exact same thing as the color "revolutions" using NGO's like Freddom House or National Endowment for Democracy as shell financiers for the C.I.A to funnel in money for political destabilazation. Funding and organizing protesters while their corporate owned media vomits propaganda.

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                • Originally posted by kardsufur View Post
                  You used Haydn Panatierre as a political argument for western democracy. Seriously please go kill yourself ALL your further arguments are immediately invalidated and discredited after that laughable attempt. You are a joke.
                  You have a huge bar of red under your name and I'm a joke.

                  Keep dreaming you brain washed dip****.

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                  • Originally posted by kardsufur View Post
                    The post under your name says it best "I'm a ******"

                    stick to crayons moron, you aren't literate or educated enough to discuss politics with grown men.

                    Anyone who uses "Wlad is marrying a U.S. Actress" as a political argument is a juvenile ****** who doesn't belong in a grown up discussion
                    It's says that because I ruffled the feathers of some moron on here who can change that crap like I care. Meanwhile, your rating is irreversibly RED.

                    HA HA HA, I PITY YOU.

                    YOU ARE TOO IGNORANT TO KNOW YOU ARE A FLAMING IDIOT. CONG****. IGNORED.

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                    • Huge props to the person who carried a 250-pound man on his shoulders.

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