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  • IronDanHamza
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
    yes they were all super durable guys that could take some good shots,,

    And in reality, yes the manny fights were kinda underwhelming, but i think it was because manny was so more vastly skilled than those guys,,

    clottey took margs and cotto to the final bell in very close competitive fights that could have gone either way, but when faced with manny, clottey is completely scared to let his hands go..
    Same thing goes with shane, and margs

    Only one that really tried to win was cotto early but after about 4 rounds he went into survival mode
    Margarito tried to win he was just shot to pieces.

    But yeah agree with what you're saying.

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    • BUNGALOWS
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      #22
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Margarito tried to win he was just shot to pieces.

      But yeah agree with what you're saying.
      You mean, getting broken down into little pieces by a little Filipino guy that throws machine gun like punches.

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      • savorduhflavor
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        #23
        Yea the Pac power question is outrageous and I hate reading all these articles about how the Pac from 2009 would have laid Rios to waste...and oh Pac hasn't had a KO since 2009...it's all ridiculous.

        Pacquiao has consistently seriously hurt every fighter he's fought since he moved to WW except maybe Clottey but that's cause he didn't come out of his shell.

        He hurt Margs w a right hook, he hurt Shane like no one has since Forrest...Bradley was rocked and bothered by the power and we've seen him hurt Marquez before but Marquez just knows how to fight him.

        He may not be scoring the KO's but he still has elite power...he's just fighting bigger guys so he's not putting them all away, that doesn't mean he's in steep decline.

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        • SlySlickSmooth
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          #24
          Manny may not have knockouts, but the faces of his opponents tell stories.

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          • paintboxer
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            #25
            rios fought scared last week.he felt something.hes lucky his glove caught some of that big left in the 5th round . plus many didn't really sit down on his punches imo. he was moving constantly

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            • Calabis
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              #26
              Manny hits hard and usually gets his result from an accumulation of hard shots...hell even the Hatton fight he hurt him several times prior to dropping a perfect bomb.

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              • MRCHOKEaMF
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                #27
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                look at the guys he has fought at welter,,

                oscar- who has stopped oscar before at welter
                cotto- only stopped my margs
                shane- never been stopped
                clottey- never been stopped
                margs- never been stopped
                rios- never been stopped
                bradley- never been stopped
                jmm- never been stopped,,,


                If you take into account the level of opposition and the fact that nearly all of these guys have never been stopped, its easy to see why manny doesnt ko welters,,

                Its tough for any fighter to score ko over another top level fighter
                Sugar Shane BEAT HIM PILLAR TO POST THEN STOPPED HIS ASS!

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                • Prime 407
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                  #28
                  Manny stopped getting knockouts when his opponents became more and more focused on defense because of his KO reputation. Hard to KO a guy who is very focused on not getting KO'd. Rios is a perfect example, any other opponent and Rios would have eaten whatever punches they would have thrown in order to throw his own, not with Pac tho as he felt the power and didn't want to get caught with something he didn't see and as a result was never able to get any decent shots off.

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                  • ThePunchingBag
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                    #29
                    Everyone he's been fighting since Miguel Cotto has not been fighting to win, but fighting to survive the entire 12.

                    Marquez being the only exception.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      look at the guys he has fought at welter,,

                      oscar- who has stopped oscar before at welter
                      cotto- only stopped my margs
                      shane- never been stopped
                      clottey- never been stopped
                      margs- never been stopped
                      rios- never been stopped
                      bradley- never been stopped
                      jmm- never been stopped,,,


                      If you take into account the level of opposition and the fact that nearly all of these guys have never been stopped, its easy to see why manny doesnt ko welters,,

                      Its tough for any fighter to score ko over another top level fighter
                      Pacquiao is so great his fans completely eliminate stoppages from his opponents records.

                      Mosley TKO9 ring a bell?

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