Does Manny not have knockouts at WW because

[richardt]

Close this thread.

I was going to say the same thing. Sugar Adam Ali is the last word on this subject. He nailed it.

[Jam Jars]

look at the guys he has fought at welter,,

oscar- who has stopped oscar before at welter - old and dehydrated
cotto- only stopped my margs - dehydrated
shane- never been stopped - old
clottey- never been stopped - had the ****s
margs- never been stopped - long lay off, his concrete was taken away, was stopped by Mosley
rios- never been stopped - never fought a top level fighter
bradley- never been stopped - broken legs
jmm- never been stopped - old



Its tough for any fighter to score ko over another top level fighter

oscar- who has stopped oscar before at welter - old and dehydrated
cotto- only stopped my margs - dehydrated
shane- never been stopped - old
clottey- never been stopped - had the ****s
margs- never been stopped - long lay off, his concrete was taken away, was stopped by Mosley
rios- never been stopped - never fought a top level fighter
bradley- never been stopped - broken legs
jmm- never been stopped - old

[cyberthugpatrol]

he cut down on the roids since VADA and USADA are in the picture now

[KingTito]

Pretty much. NOT TO MENTION, Manny's speedy power punches turn most fighters into shells, and when you go into defensive mode; it's hard to knock you out. The reason he knocked Cotto out was because, if you look at the replay, Cotto actually tried and was determined to throw.

This nailed it on the head pretty much.

[New England]

robert garcia doesn't throw in the towel.

[CANELOLUJAH]

Well Mosley sure did rag doll granite chin Margo..and Alvarado made granite chin Rios do a dance a couple times..so i guess Alvarado hits harder then Manny?

According to Rios himself Mike does hit harder then Manny, The problem here is pacquaio slowed alot power is not what it was at the lighter weights and he usually hurt people by hitting them multiple times at once and dazing them, he not able to do that against these real welter cause usually these real welters can take the punch quite decently and throw some hard fire back where I think Manny is feeling the shots more and more as of late.

Look at Rios, he landed punches on Pacquaio and got big reaction out of pacquaio, Rios is just too slow on his feet cause his timing was there just he too slow on his feet to put him in the proper position to tag pacquaio.

[Pacquiao'd]

A lot changes when you don't have special skakes

[Pacquiao'd]

look at the guys he has fought at welter,,

oscar- who has stopped oscar before at welter
cotto- only stopped my margs
shane- never been stopped
clottey- never been stopped
margs- never been stopped
rios- never been stopped
bradley- never been stopped
jmm- never been stopped,,,


If you take into account the level of opposition and the fact that nearly all of these guys have never been stopped, its easy to see why manny doesnt ko welters

Its tough for any fighter to score ko over another top level fighter

But y'all sure talk trash about Floyd not stopping anyone when he's Mannys size. The double standards on this board are amazing

[-Kev-]

Adam Ali breaks down Mayweather's resume...

Canelo - never been stopped
Guerrero - never been stopped
Cotto - never been stopped
Ortiz - never been stopped
Mosley - never been stopped
Marquez - never been stopped
Hatton - never been stopped
De La Hoya - never been stopped
Baldomir- never been stopped
Judah - never been stopped
Gatti - never been stopped
Corley - never been stopped
Castillo - never been stopped
Chavez - never been stopped
Corrales - never been stopped
Manfredy - never been stopped
G. Hernandez - never been stopped

[SlySlickSmooth]

But y'all sure talk trash about Floyd not stopping anyone when he's Mannys size. The double standards on this board are amazing

Do people really talk trash about that? You might be the biggest idiot in the world complaining about box-your-ears-off Mayweather not stopping people.

I only started this thread for Manny's zero knockout ratio at welterweight yet people are trying to argue his power is a myth when they're missing the whole argument.

What this thread was meant to point at was, since Mayweather does not count as one of these guys that rehydrate past 154, how would Manny's punches effect Mayweather? That was the question this thread was supposed to spring up but I guess no one caught on.

Regardless who Manny fights even if they're big men, these guys' face come out bruised up if not bloodied. Except Tim Bradley, the dude's skull is hard as a rock.