Floyd's Shoulder Roll vs Pacquiao's Mobility?

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #61
    Originally posted by Holywarrior
    Cotto's jab is much more educated than Manny's.
    why do ppl think manny is some dumb fighter or something?

    he's not the most technical but he has skills, technique, ring smarts.

    you know why cotto stopped throwing that EDUCATED JAB at pacquia after a few rounds?

    because pac adjusted and was going over that jab.

    he was eating a left straight or right hook every time he threw it.

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    • hypodermical
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      #62
      Originally posted by boxingfeind
      With Pacquiao,his style is much more predictable cause all he does is shoot the Jab,Straight left,flurry combinations occasional feints,occasional counters, uses movement sometimes and that`s it.How is that unpredictable?.
      This is hilarious!
      1. You're saying all of that, including flurry combinations, counters, feints and movement is predictable? lol ok..
      2. He's so predictable that he's he's been pretty much dominating everyone aside from JMM (who he didnt dominate but went to war with)? He's so predictable that no one's actually beat him convincingly since Morales 1 ??? (JMM 4 was a one punch KO, It doesnt, JMM was losing before that punch, and it doesnt help your "pac is predictable" argument.)

      Nice trolling.

      Everyone who fought him says that what makes him hard to fight is his speed, and unpredictability with his movements and punch angles.

      Not saying Pac would beat Floyd for sure, but who else is left for either one??? If there's anyone out there who has a chance against Floyd, it's Pacquiao. This is why everyone wants to see this fight.
      Last edited by hypodermical; 11-27-2013, 10:52 AM.

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      • Holywarrior
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        #63
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        why do ppl think manny is some dumb fighter or something?

        he's not the most technical but he has skills, technique, ring smarts.

        you know why cotto stopped throwing that EDUCATED JAB at pacquia after a few rounds?

        because pac adjusted and was going over that jab.

        he was eating a left straight or right hook every time he threw it.
        Not once did I say Manny was a "dumb fighter" But were talking about an olympic calibre lead jab here.

        Cotto stopped throwing the jab because he got tagged, was war-torn and has a leaky defense.

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        • DeadLikeMe
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          #64
          JMM-Pac III and the championship rounds of Pac-Bradley lay out a pretty clear blueprint of how to nullify this version of Pac's offense.

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          • Elotero
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            #65
            Originally posted by TheHolyCross
            the point isn't the jab people, it's the left hand, the angle it has on the shoulder roll defence

            Cotto lands a jab = Manny beats Mayweather

            Manny got KTFO by Marquez

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            • Luilun
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              #66
              Originally posted by DoubleLeftH00k
              how is this going to play out?
              pac in and out, side to side vs floyd's shoulder tight defense?

              floyd never fought anyone with pacs caliber of movement,
              same goes with pac
              pac never fought anyone with shoulder roll such as floyds

              only thing pac has a + against floyd is with seen pac deal with speed vs bradley lately....
              how would floyd deal with speed such as pacs?
              Shoulder roll works best when some is standing their it won't work if someone punches than moves. Pacquiao throws his left than leans to his left the shoulder roll won't work especialy when Pacquiao circles to his right. Floyd would basically have to fight the way Marquez does by consonantly moving to his right

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              • QuebecSTAR2
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                #67
                The only rolls coward STEROID FROID will be doing is rolling on the canvas

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                • thabanga510
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                  #68
                  Floyd would walk down and bully Pac in the ring he will not let the smaller fighter dictate the fight. That jab will tag Pac all night and when Pac lunges that left hook will follow.

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                  • DoubleLeftH00k
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                    #69
                    I see alot of triangle theorist in my thread
                    Lets not get it on triangle guys coz if we do we will end up with
                    Floyd struggled with cotto,de lahoya,who pac beat with ease
                    Manny struggled and knockout by marquez who floyd beat with ease
                    this Is a 50/50 fight no matter how u believe its not,
                    Consider that pacqiao straight left always lands againts fast or slow opponents
                    Im thinking how would floyd react wheb pac connects with it

                    Also I want to see how would pac react when in the ring with as fast as him in floyd

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by reflex+speed=me
                      they should fight beginning of 2015 bc they have opponents already for next year. mayweather would be 38 & pac would be 36. their both gna slow down slightly.. feet, head & hands. it'll prob come down to who aged the most & who walks into the ring with the bigger balls.

                      its easy to say may by UD bc at this rate of nervousness of pac he'll dance all 12. but imagine if a cotto timed jab or a mosley straight lands for pac over the shoulder roll or a judah upper cut on one of mays rollouts, nd pac jumps on him. we can only wait til fight night to know whats gon happen

                      one things for sure, mayweathers gna be the lightest puncher manny wouldve faced in a while nd he'll walk through those to throw his combos & bombs. at least there both exactly the same size & both fast as fck. fight needs to happen sept 2014 then rematch may 2015
                      No one walks thrown Floyd's shots hence why they go into survival mode

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