Floyd's Shoulder Roll vs Pacquiao's Mobility?

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  • A-Wolf
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    #21
    Originally posted by boxingfeind
    Zab and Pedquiao`s style is as different as night and day.Zab is a slick crafty fighter;while Pedquiao style is more orthodox and pretty basic.Zab is a fighter that knows how to set traps and is close in size with Floyd,Pacquiao is more of an aggressive,in and out flurry type fighter whose a lot smaller then Floyd.Floyd has those fighters for breakfast with lead rights,his counters and upper and lower body movement.Pacquiao-with his shorter reach and shorter body-is gonna have to reach in to hit Floyd which is gonna leave him open to counters when he misses with his punches,just like in the Marquez fights.
    Predictable. This reeks of triangle theories and misnomers. You haven't described Pacquiao at all. His counter punching and boxing skills are exceptional - far better than you make it seem. You're blind if you can't see that at this point. He's unorthodox and absolutely lethal in transition. Do you really think Pacquiao is going to be "leaning in" to do anything? He's not at all like Judah aside from being a southpaw. He's closer to Castillo in terms pressure only he's significantly faster, more athletic and more powerful than JLC - if you to expound further on the types of fighters and styles that have troubled Mayweather historically. He's also a better all around fighter. Pacquiao's averages 30 more punches per round than Mayweather. Punches that are so hard according to Shane Mosley they can do damage from any distance thrown from any angle. Funny post, buddy.

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    • A-Wolf
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      #22
      Originally posted by boxingfeind
      They are close in speed but Floyd has above average reflexes while Pacquiao`s reflexes are average at best.That`s gonna be a huge factor in this fight also.

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      • hectari
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        #23
        Pacman already shown he can handle a younger and faster guy in Bradley, Floyd hasn't fought a guy that fast or slick and crafty in ages. He hasn't fought one at all, Zab Judah was fast but not slick he was flat footed and tired quick. Pacs foot movement is hard to time and a spot fighter who pot shots needs to be able to time their movement.

        The lead left is also a good weapon to use on Floyd he is open for left hands whether a jab or straight fromt he shoulder roll stance.

        Pac and Floyd use similar moves here is gifs comparing them


        If Pacman outboxed Floyd it would destroy Floyd forever, being knocked out would be less humiliating, but to get beat in your own game?



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        • Holywarrior
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          #24
          Mayweather wouldn't use the shoulder roll he'd use a shell style of defense and move side to side like he did against Judah.

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            #25
            man, people seriously believe pacquiao is some dumb fighter, zab judah is now smarter

            all pacquiao is, is a ball of sporatic perpetual motion to these guys

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              #26
              Originally posted by Holywarrior
              Mayweather wouldn't use the shoulder roll he'd use a shell style of defense and move side to side like he did against Judah.
              he didn't move side to side vs judah, he came foward and on numerous occassions would throw himself off balance trying to reach judah and fall to the ropes when judah would cricle out on him

              (actually not to unlike how pacquiao looks when reaching an opponent on the back foot)

              and probabley the main culprit for him getting knocked down by judah was because he was again off balance, reaching with that right hand
              Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-27-2013, 09:23 AM.

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              • Holywarrior
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                #27
                Originally posted by TheHolyCross
                he didn't move side to side vs judah, he came foward and on numerous occassions would throw himself off balance trying to reach judah and fall to the ropes when judah would cricle out on him

                (actually not to unlike how pacquiao looks when reaching an opponent on the back foot)
                He would fire and spin off against Judah turning him, AKA 'side to side'

                I don't know why people compare Judah to Pacquiao anyways, it's ******ed. Judah boxed behind is jab in that fight and won 2 rounds.

                Once Floyd switched to a full shell D Judah was screwed, as was Mosley.

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                  #28
                  I think for Floyd to win he's gonna have to get aggressive. Pac throws too many punches for Floyd to just coast via potshots and counters.

                  However, fighters wind up throwing way less punches against Floyd because the openings just aren't there like in other fights. Can Pac keep up his high work rate?

                  I'm really excited for this fight.
                  Last edited by Derranged; 11-27-2013, 09:31 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Derranged
                    I think for Floyd to win he's gonna have to get aggressive. Pac throws too many punches for Floyd to just coast via potshots and counters.

                    However, fighters wind up throwing way less punches against Floyd because the openings just aren't there like in other fights. Can Pac keep up his high work rate?

                    I'm really excited for this fight.
                    Pacquiao's activity dips considerably againt a strong counterpuncher. Happened in the Morales fight and in almost every Marquez fight. Pac looked downright tentative in their 3rd fight

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                      #30
                      Comparatively, Pacquiao's a lot more static than he was. If Floyd ever does decide to fight him it'll be partly because his movement has waned.

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