Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Beating Rios Don't Get You a Floyd Fight!

[Spoon23]

It's a 50-50 thing.. yeah brandon rios aint too much, but guerrero? floyd sr calling guerrero and canelo elite now? we know how they are, canelo himself is built up to be a star, but who does he beat? same thing with guerrero.. pacquiao can take them alternately in between rounds!

This thread exposing fraud senior again.

[hitking]

the fight was def makeable when both were on hbo from 09-12,,, If you dont think floyd is afraid of losing his 0, then your in denial,, why do you think he had canelo at a CW,,, brought hatton to 147, choses guys like ortiz and ghost, wouldnt fight shane or cotto in 07-08 when TR and GBP were making fights together like hatton-manny, shane-margs, shane-cotto, manny-oscar etc.. Floyd is afraid of losing his 0 because that is what he has built his hype around, being an undefeated fighter,, if floyd had a loss or 2 we wouldnt be earning anything near what he is now...
Plus floyd is the most powerful boxer in the world, if he really wanted it, he could have made it, no doubt,, he is the face of boxing and #1 draw, and only ali, srl, oscar, tyson can say that, and all those guys made the fights no matter the promoters or networks involved,,, Look at oscar, he was the #1 draw and the face of boxing and he landed fights with tito, shane, vargas, ike, pernel, chavez, hopkins, manny, floyd, etc... I see no reason why floyd couldnt do the same except for that he doesnt want to,,, There is no plausible reason except for that,,, Your talking about a guy that is a free agent, has no restrictions, no promoter, yet for whatever reason he cant make the biggest fight in history,,
FLoyd could come out on ESPN and call manny out repeatedly and apply a bunch of pressure to get the fight done,,, But when have you ever seen floyd call manny out, he makes a bunch of excuses, and says its easy money, easy fight, then why doesnt he fight him,, Every fight of this magnitude has always been made,, ali-frazeir, ali-foreman, srl-duran, srl-hearsn, srl-hagler, tyson-spinks, tyson-holyfield, oscar-tito, oscar-floyd, etc
If floyd was just some fighter like mares or donaire, then it would be understandable, but not if your the damn #1 fighter in the world, who has no restrictions and is his own boss,,
Like i said before, from 09-12 he could have made any demands he wanted from arum and arum would have agreed as long as TR was the promoter for the fight,, Floyd is a free agent and only works fight by fight basis with GBP, he could have easily made this fight with TR from 09-12, to think otherwise is just fanboy denial

How long have you been following boxing? Because you speak as if you're simply regurgitating things you've heard or read and weren't really folllowing the sport when they happen. Floyd was calling for Mosley when he was the top guy at 30 and Mosley was the top guy at 35. Mosley didn't want the fight. Not because he was scared of Floyd. But because Floyd wasn't where he was and he wanted higher paying fights. Go back and watch the postfight interview when Mosley fought Vargas. Just how Shane talked about headaches and all kinda stuff when asked about a Floyd fight. And when they finally did fight. It was Mosley that jumped in Floyd's face after the JMM fight. And much like with all this Pacquaio nonsense. People were saying Floyd was scared of Shane. Ironically, a couple months laterwhen Floyd kicked his ass. Those same people were saying Shane was old and Floyd ducked him when he was in his prime. Which clearly wasn't the case if you've followed both throughout their careers.

Who's next Hatton? Why did Floyd pull Hatton up to 147? Are you not familiar with how Hatton became known as Tune-up in boxing circles? Let me educate you. Hatton sa ringside as Floyd dismantled Gatti in a 140 fight. Hatton was the lineal champ in that division. When asked about the proposition of fighting Floyd. He cited that he would need a couple tune-ups. Floyd moved on to 140. Because the other top 140lb fightr at that time's name was Miguel Cotto. When his promoter was asked about a Floyd fight. He said Cotto, who he was promoting as the WBO jr welterweight champ, was too green to fight Floyd at the moment. So Floyd moved up because his main priority was trying to secure a fight with then jr middleweight champ Oscar de la Hoya. So please explain to me how Floyd drug Hatton up to 47. What was he supposed to do? Wait until Hatton had enough tune-ups at 40? And the irony is, Floyd and Hatton turned pro at roughly the same time. Floyd started at 130. Hatton started ay 140. So assuming Floyd didn't hit puberty at 30, in reality how much bigger than Hatton was he?

Who else, Canelo? I'll tell anyone willing to listen that catchweights are lame. But let's be honest. Just like when Pac fought DLH, Cotto, and Margarito. Floyd beat Canelo, much like Pac did those guys, in a manner that you can make an educated assumption that the catchweight had little, and likely nothing to do with the end result.

At the end of the day, you and a lotta others want Floyd to make concessions and fight guys when its convienent for them. You've said Floyd SHOULD abandon his relationship with GBP. You've said Floyd SHOULD opt outta the most lucrative TV contract in boxing history. All to make a fight with Pac. But as you said. Floyd IS the face of boxing. Floyd IS the #1 P4P fighter in the world. So tell me. When in boxing hisory has the guy that moves the needle been forced to make concessions and bend over backwards to make a fight with anyone? From where I'm sitting. If Floyd is all those things you say he is. Shouldn't Pac be the one one doing whatever is necessary to make a Floyd fight happen. And if that means telling Arum to kick rocks, so be it?

[Spoon23]

I'll keep it brief with you. You talk to much like senior does haha! Just tell your boy Floyd to man up and fight for all the glory that comes with it. got it?

Duck season is over now. Every excuse your camp makes just sound silly and it's not just now. Your camp sounds so dumb every time they open their mouths.

I think they've run out of excuses as evident to Seniors dimwit excuse that Rios ain't it but winning to Berto does lol Never ending rodeo that seems to show all smoke and mirrors for Floyd's camp. They know something we don't know and maybe it's that left hand down the pipe their worried about. Pac throws it all night and that shoulder roll won't cut it.

[hitking]

So u want those guys to come down ,ggg and Sergio . Rather than see PAC/May at 147. U like catch weight fights? I mean i want to see all those fights but the fight I like most is may/PAC at 147. I think it's a 50-50 fight

I wanna see Floyd fight those guys at 160. As for Floyd-Pac. I'm pretty sure Vegas odds has that far from a even fight. I give Pac a puncher's chance. But that's about it. But that's just me. I honestly have always felt that Floyd is a stylistic nightmare for Pac. And not only that, he's a bigger guy. On the flipside, Floyd probably enters the ring an underdog against Martinez 60. And even if its at 54, the odds would be a lot closer than what Floyd-Pac would be.

[hitking]

Hey Hit King, I've probably seen more Fights Live, in the Arena,
than a CHUMP, like U has seen on your BOOB TUBE. I've seen the Greatest,
and FRAUD ain't It.....He couldn't carry SRL Jock Strap, among others...

Well, you probably have seen more fights than me. I live in a part of the world where boxing isn't popular. And since I'm not rich. Hopping a plane to Vegas, NYC, or Cali to attend multiple big fights yearly isn't an option. But when there's a fight I feel worthy of coughing up 2500 for a weekend. Or a decent card I can drive to in the Southeast or Midwest, I'm there. So what's your point?

[hitking]

I'll keep it brief with you. You talk to much like senior does haha! Just tell your boy Floyd to man up and fight for all the glory that comes with it. got it?

Duck season is over now. Every excuse your camp makes just sound silly and it's not just now. Your camp sounds so dumb every time they open their mouths.

I think they've run out of excuses as evident to Seniors dimwit excuse that Rios ain't it but winning to Berto does lol Never ending rodeo that seems to show all smoke and mirrors for Floyd's camp. They know something we don't know and maybe it's that left hand down the pipe their worried about. Pac throws it all night and that shoulder roll won't cut it.

Right. Because Floyd's never had success against southpaws with fast hands.

[Spoon23]

I wanna see Floyd fight those guys at 160. As for Floyd-Pac. I'm pretty sure Vegas odds has that far from a even fight. I give Pac a puncher's chance. But that's about it. But that's just me. I honestly have always felt that Floyd is a stylistic nightmare for Pac. And not only that, he's a bigger guy. On the flipside, Floyd probably enters the ring an underdog against Martinez 60. And even if its at 54, the odds would be a lot closer than what Floyd-Pac would be.

Fantasy fights again bud. Haven't you heard? Your boy floyd is not a risk taker and calculates if it's a winnable fight for him. His last fight was in a catch weight dude.

Dude know your boxer. You seem like you don't know him too well. Too much kool-aid does that to you.

It ain't happening. Now get back to reality and say I want him to fight Khan. He's the best out there for floyd

[Spoon23]

Right. Because Floyd's never had success against southpaws with fast hands.

Not really, he hasn't faced the best southpaw with fast hands and feet, and oh yeah the so called fighter of the decade too.

[Respect Power]

I wanna see Floyd fight those guys at 160. As for Floyd-Pac. I'm pretty sure Vegas odds has that far from a even fight. I give Pac a puncher's chance. But that's about it. But that's just me. I honestly have always felt that Floyd is a stylistic nightmare for Pac. And not only that, he's a bigger guy. On the flipside, Floyd probably enters the ring an underdog against Martinez 60. And even if its at 54, the odds would be a lot closer than what Floyd-Pac would be.

I would love to see Floyd at 160 and would give him mad props for it but I honestly believe there's 0 chance of that. I still think Floyd/PAC is 50-50 . Two great fighters , 1 night, it's a toss up. Best of 7 I'll give u Floyd

[hitking]

I would love to see Floyd at 160 and would give him mad props for it but I honestly believe there's 0 chance of that. I still think Floyd/PAC is 50-50 . Two great fighters , 1 night, it's a toss up. Best of 7 I'll give u Floyd

I don't think Floyd goes to 160 either. First, his body maxes out at around 150. Secondly, Floyd don't wanna open that can of worms. Hell, Ward and B-Hop have already said they're illing to go to 160 for Floyd. LOL!! Floyd's an underdog against Serg and GGG at 60. He's a no-hoper against Ward or B-Hop.

As for Floyd-Pac, I just don't see it. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. If they fight, I'll watch. But going in, I'd expect to have some early success. But expect Floyd to adjust and win 8-9rds in an uneventful clinic. Ironicaly, that's pretty much identical to how I see Khan playing out against Floyd.