Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Beating Rios Don't Get You a Floyd Fight!

[rasdun]

tommy gunn- that is so true - barely beating Julio diaz is enough to get for a mayweatehr fight, but not dominating Rios, who is in his prime wheras Diaz was done 5 yrs ago

[StrangerInTown]

The Racket Squad: All Roads Lead To Mannyville

Pac's style is all wrong for Mayweather.
He knew it then, he knows it now.

Given the current state of judging in the sport, this has the potential of a split verdict for Pacman if this is fought on American soil.
Floyd is way too bright not to recognize the truth of Pacquaio being a legit threat.

If the 'Money' makers can make the case for Khan then make it.

All roads lead to Manny Pacquiao.

It's long overdue and his body of work over 15 years states that he has earned it.

One more solid Pac outing in April and Mayweather will be left without a choice.
Those who pay his bills will make it for him.

[The Big Dunn]

2 unrealistic offers, lets be honest.

50/50 and PED testing is in no way unrealistic. As ****ty as the last deal was, it appears to be as much or more than Manny v jmm and manny/rios- early indications are manny may not make more than $25 mil off the Rios fight, much less tha expected.

Look, I get it. Manny wants and believes he is entitled to a much larger share of the profits of this fight so he refuses to fight until he gets what he feels he is worth. I get that.

You and a few other manny fans admit this and admit he walked away. Same as I and a few other floyd fans admit floyd could easily make a better offer, as you said ego is a b1tch.

I just don't get why others can't.

[hitking]

Nobody said because Manny beat Rios _________ , Manny Pacquaio has tried to make a fight with Floyd for more than 5 years, and the Mayweather Klan has always had a bag full of excuses to choose someone else. So these are ****** comments from his crackhead father, who must be having a relapse. Manny beat Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Hatton, Dela Hoya, Mosley, Bradley, now Rios, and has been calling out Floyd all along, to no avail. So quit with the smoke screen as though this is about one win over Rios, who everyone was calling a "dangerous fight" for Pacquiao, whom Manny embarrassed in the ring. The same could be said for Canelo or Guerrero, and their lackluster performances against Mayweather; those two showed us nothing. Rios showed us nothing. SO step up Mayweather. Stop with the smoke and mirrors, and the ducking of Manny Pacquaio for 5 years. You ducked Cotto & Mosley for more than 10 years because they were too dangerous in their prime. Grow a set!

I remember in the immediate aftermath of Floyd-Canelo. There was HUGE percentage of the regular posters on here that were saying that no one below the middleweight division had a chance against Floyd. They even went as far to say they weren't even interested in seeing Floyd fight UNLESS he made the jump to middleweight. Fast forward to today. Noow, the "Floyd's ducking Manny" hype machine is back in overdrive. So my question is. Between then and now, outside of Pac beating Rios, what has completely flipped the sentiment on the boards? Its either Pac beating Rios reestablished him as a legitimate threat to Floyd. Or, we have the largest collection of bi-polar individuals on planet Earth on boxingscene. Which one is it?

[rasdun]

His reasoning is so silly . He's making it sound like manny has to prove himself. We all know manny is a star and the money's there to be made .If manny isn't on Floyd's level then go beat him and take that easy money. His logic is ridiculous .They want to create obstacles, postpone and hopefully avoid for some reason.

so true. again, we all know both sides are to blame. but why continue to make excuses. hy would Floyd not want the fight now. Im not saying he's scared, but unfortunately when you've had 10 different reasons over the past 3 yrs (steroid testing, purse split, Im on vacation, you lost to Rios, etc. etc. etc.) it makes you look like you're scared

[JustinFloyd]

I explained this to you, if you want to overlook it or ignore it fine. He didn't have the MGM reserved on cinco de mayo in 2010. I don't know why they didn't let him reserve it.

The fact is today floyd has the MGM reserved may 5th weekend and knowing this, Manny and his team said they have plans to return April 12th. That clearly shows they are not planning to fight floyd in May as the comments from manny and his team suggest they want to do.

Nothing you post changes the above facts. sorry.

So you dont know but everything else you know! lol! So why you did not criticize Floyd back then when Floyd sets his own date that is not on cinco de mayo and now you criticizing Pac's team? hahahaha!

[rasdun]

I remember in the immediate aftermath of Floyd-Canelo. There was HUGE percentage of the regular posters on here that were saying that no one below the middleweight division had a chance against Floyd. They even went as far to say they weren't even interested in seeing Floyd fight UNLESS he made the jump to middleweight. Fast forward to today. Noow, the "Floyd's ducking Manny" hype machine is back in overdrive. So my question is. Between then and now, outside of Pac beating Rios, what has completely flipped the sentiment on the boards? Its either Pac beating Rios reestablished him as a legitimate threat to Floyd. Or, we have the largest collection of bi-polar individuals on planet Earth on boxingscene. Which one is it?

I think many think Floyd will beat many. BUT, this is a ifght than Fans have wanted for 3-4 yrs. Pac beating Rios like he did complete shutout showed he has a lot left. As such, now fans, myself included, want to see this fight that we have wanted for yrs. sooo, when we here more excuses like - Pac hasn't "earned" it ( like Guererro did more than Pac to earn a Mayweather fight), especially in light of his career achievements and th fact than they know the fans want to see this fight - it sounds like he's scared - no saying he is, but that's how it sounds

[rayb112]

2 unrealistic offers, lets be honest.

Unrealistic??? Really??? Manny earned 18 million guarantee with a upside of making 30 million if the PPV is good in his fight with Rios...Floyd offered him 40 Million his biggest payday with the possibility of backside PPV. Please!!! You lie, Bob Arums lies, Freddie Roach lies...Numbers don't lie!!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/manny-pacquiao-insists-hell-fight-222300428--box.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...yd-mayweather/

[rasdun]

50/50 and PED testing is in no way unrealistic. As ****ty as the last deal was, it appears to be as much or more than Manny v jmm and manny/rios- early indications are manny may not make more than $25 mil off the Rios fight, much less tha expected.

Look, I get it. Manny wants and believes he is entitled to a much larger share of the profits of this fight so he refuses to fight until he gets what he feels he is worth. I get that.

You and a few other manny fans admit this and admit he walked away. Same as I and a few other floyd fans admit floyd could easily make a better offer, as you said ego is a b1tch.

I just don't get why others can't.

also, big dunn, you have to realize that 25 mil was just for Manny minus his manager's share. the 40 mil flat fee would have to be split with Arum too. Ive worked in boxin industry for years in the past, I know generally how it work. when a fighter has an exclusive promotional contract, and the fighte has afight with another promoter, the promoter that has the contract - Arum here - gets 25-30% of the purse. so, of that 40 mil offer, Pac would get only 25-30. so, he really wouldn't even be making much more money for a fight that is worth double or even triple his fight wit Rios

[The Big Dunn]

So you dont know but everything else you know! lol! So why you did not criticize Floyd back then when Floyd sets his own date that is not on cinco de mayo and now you criticizing Pac's team? hahahaha!

I am criticizing pacs team because out of oneside of their mouth they have been discussing a potential floyd fight out of the other side they are planning to fight someone else. Very simple.