SHO subscribers up to 23mill, HBO drops to 28.7mill

[hhs661]

This is because of HOMELAND not boxing. Lets get real here. The NYT wrote about this late last year.

pretty much this right here. Showtime is stepping up all across the board. With tv series and their sports programming. Boxing is like an extra boost to the entire machine they got going right now.

Homeland, Ray Donovan, shameless, Inside the NFL, 60 minutes sports, etc etc

But the network groupie love needs to stop.. I've never seen people fight over more boxing, ever.

[-PBP-]

I doubt boxing alone can move the numbers that much. I wish boxing was that popular but let's be real.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't think boxing alone is responsible for thi number-Homeland, NFL SHow. Hoepfully it helps ratings on showtime fights.

[Da Machine]

Ok, I ****ing hate this network battle. It's the ******est ****ing thing I have ever heard, but I need to correct a few of the HBO fanboys who can't stand seeing more boxing for some reason.

HBO has not had more shows then showtime this year. They have had more lately. That's not a whole year.

Showtime has more high level fighs on each card.

Showtime production is just fine. Maybe I'm not as materialistic as some of you ladies but where is the difference?

[The Problem Child]

I am subscribed to both but WOW, HBO is still ahead by a good 5 million! Crazy!

[smoothsmg]

pretty much this right here. Showtime is stepping up all across the board. With tv series and their sports programming. Boxing is like an extra boost to the entire machine they got going right now.

Homeland, Ray Donovan, shameless, Inside the NFL, 60 minutes sports, etc etc

But the network groupie love needs to stop.. I've never seen people fight over more boxing, ever.

You said 60 minute sports and all i have is two words from that: Lara Logan.

On another note, I read that someone say how HBO has done so much boxing the last 2 months. Great for boxing, but it seems to be the "what have you done for me lately" type thing with people. They only remember what was most recent. Shotime has constantly put on better cards over the past 2-3 years as well as introducing us to new fighters. HBO has constantly given us 1 and 2 fight cards. I have both so I am overly satisfied, but Shotime has been doing a much better job when it comes to boxing over the past 2 years.

[hhs661]

You said 60 minute sports and all i have is two words from that: Lara Logan.

On another note, I read that someone say how HBO has done so much boxing the last 2 months. Great for boxing, but it seems to be the "what have you done for me lately" type thing with people. They only remember what was most recent. Shotime has constantly put on better cards over the past 2-3 years as well as introducing us to new fighters. HBO has constantly given us 1 and 2 fight cards. I have both so I am overly satisfied, but Shotime has been doing a much better job when it comes to boxing over the past 2 years.

Lara Logan.. yes sir..

They(HBO) really have. They started the year off with a **** and are finishing strong as well... but there's still more boxing in the next few weeks. Which I don't get why people would complain or fight about.

Even before the official GBP-Showtime merger, boxing on that network was great. The smw round robin tournament, the 118 tourney and quality fights since then, as well Shobox on Fridays. The thing that puzzles me are the fans fighting like little girls. We don't see that with the NFL on Fox or CBS, Sunday night and Monday night football on nbc and espn. Know why? Cause they know the more football the better.

Same thing with the NBA on espn, tbt & abc. "Oh, the graphics and angles on cbs is better than fox." Dudes just need to seriously grow up a bit. But Lara Logan can get it

[smoothsmg]

Lara Logan.. yes sir..

They(HBO) really have. They started the year off strong and are finishing stron as well... but there's still more boxing in the next few weeks. Which I don't get why people would complain or fight about.

Even before the official GBP-Showtime merger, boxing on that network was great. The smw round robin tournament, the 118 tourney and quality fights since the like Shobox on Fridays. The thing that puzzles me are the fans fighting like little girls. We don't see that with the NFL on Fox or CBS, Sunday night and Monday night football on nbc and espn. Know why? Cause they know the more football the better.

Same thing with the NBA on espn, tbt & abc. "Oh, the graphics and angles on cbs is better than fox." Dudes just need to seriously grow up a bit. But Lara Logan can get it

Yes, she can get it very much (me and my buddies use that term, lol). The last two years Shotime has done better to me based off more fights, new fighters, back up fights if a knockout occurs, and no 1 or 2 fight cards.

[littlemac]

Pac--turds an a rampage against those numbers

[HanzGruber]

Ok, I ****ing hate this network battle. It's the ******est ****ing thing I have ever heard, but I need to correct a few of the HBO fanboys who can't stand seeing more boxing for some reason.

HBO has not had more shows then showtime this year. They have had more lately. That's not a whole year.

Showtime has more high level fighs on each card.

Showtime production is just fine. Maybe I'm not as materialistic as some of you ladies but where is the difference?

Pretty much. People forget when showtime was killing it this year and hbo was quiet