Carl Froch should go down as a all time great.

[IronDanHamza]

i think there was a genuine feeling that calzaghe would come back. when that faded away, they turned to froch.

they're paying froch so well these days that he's better off staying home than fighting on big TV networks in america. that's a popular british fighter.


i'm not as keyed into british TV politics as some of the others, but i'm also led to believe that froch had a hard time getting onto "sky" where the real money is made, and there is real exposure. he's been on there for a while now, correct?

His first fight on Sky Sports was the Glen Johnson fight.

Up until that point he was completely unknown to the casual audience and all of his fights were on Primetime, a channel that literally no one knows of.

It's genuinely amazing how he's become the superstar he is. No one saw that coming.

[Humean]

i think there was a genuine feeling that calzaghe would come back. when that faded away, they turned to froch.

they're paying froch so well these days that he's better off staying home than fighting on big TV networks in america. that's a popular british fighter.


i'm not as keyed into british TV politics as some of the others, but i'm also led to believe that froch had a hard time getting onto "sky" where the real money is made, and there is real exposure. he's been on there for a while now, correct?

Yeah he is popular now but that has only come in the past year or two. He had some of his earlier fights on free to view terrestial tv but his popularity continued to stay pretty low. I think his personality was part of it, despite all the tough northern English working class schtick he was and is a bit of an arrogant prick. Naseem Hamed was worse in that respect but people loved to hate Nas whereas I think a lot of people simply found Froch offputting.

[slimshandy69]

very true about froch only recently being known, even in Nottingham not everyone knew who he was apart from Football Hooligans and boxing fans.

jOE BLOGGS knew Audley Harrison better than Carl froch until the last year or so...

[T-97]

His first fight on Sky Sports was the Glen Johnson fight.

Up until that point he was completely unknown to the casual audience and all of his fights were on Primetime, a channel that literally no one knows of.

It's genuinely amazing how he's become the superstar he is. No one saw that coming.

His fight with Robin Reid was on Sky Sports in 2007, and as far as I know a few of his other fights around that time were on Sky. His fights against Albert Rybacki and Jean Pascal were shown in ITV 1, one of the largest TV channels in the UK.

So, he wasn't that unknown. He was just massively overshadowed by guys like Hatton, Khan and Haye.

[Humean]

His fight with Robin Reid was on Sky Sports in 2007, and as far as I know a few of his other fights around that time were on Sky. His fights against Albert Rybacki and Jean Pascal were shown in ITV 1, one of the largest TV channels in the UK.

So, he wasn't that unknown. He was just massively overshadowed by guys like Hatton, Khan and Haye.

He was very far from a popular British boxing star though. I think it was probably the Bute fight that confirmed him as a star.

[GhostBlade]

Froch will definitely be regarded as a British all-time great along with Eubank, Calazaghe and Benn. Folks outside of Britain probably won't regard him as a great because he lost to Ward.

[T-97]

He was very far from a popular British boxing star though. I think it was probably the Bute fight that confirmed him as a star.

Oh, no doubt. He was only known to boxing fans, and even then a lot of the more casual fans still didn't really know who he was. I just meant he wasn't underground as the post I responded to made it sound like.

It took a long, long time for him to get out of the shadows of the bigger British names.

I would agree the Bute fight was the fight that got him noticed a lot more. He was getting more recognition through his will to fight anyone over the years, but I think that destruction job made more casual fans begin to take notice of him.

[IronDanHamza]

His fight with Robin Reid was on Sky Sports in 2007, and as far as I know a few of his other fights around that time were on Sky. His fights against Albert Rybacki and Jean Pascal were shown in ITV 1, one of the largest TV channels in the UK.

So, he wasn't that unknown. He was just massively overshadowed by guys like Hatton, Khan and Haye.

Ah yes sorry his domestic career, Brian Magee, Tony Dodson etc.

But then he was dropped and left in the dark for quite a while until they picked him back on.

So Glen Johnson was his first fight (back) on Sky, is what I should have said.

And he certainly was unknown in the grand scheme of things. He was about as known as Martin Murray is now to the casual audience.

[T-97]

Ah yes sorry his domestic career, Brian Magee, Tony Dodson etc.

But then he was dropped and left in the dark for quite a while until they picked him back on.

So Glen Johnson was his first fight (back) on Sky, is what I should have said.

And he certainly was unknown in the grand scheme of things. He was about as known as Martin Murray is now to the casual audience.

Yeah, he definitely wasn't well know, I just meant he'd had more exposure on TV earlier in his career than your post indicated. It is very strange that after having his domestic career shown on Sky, then his first title fight on ITV that he was relegated to lesser known subscription channels for a long time.

Anyone have any idea why that happened? I'm sure there was a reason, but I have no idea what it might be

[mikinoki]

Froch is a paper champion...Theres only one super midleweight champion and we all know who that is.As for ATG status not even close.Good fighter yes but ATG or P4P NO.He's not even the best at one weight class