Comments Thread For: Froch: I Broke Groves Down, Ref Saved His Career!

[Roberto Vasquez]

Carl Froch proved he's almost at the level of (as he said) a domestic-level fighter. He should fight Degale next.

[fcastro1]

it goes to show the state of the super middleweight division when u have a fighter like froch as a multiple champ. lol

[yoz]

We are talking about the stoppage. It was a bad stoppage. Froch fans, it was a bad stoppage. Damage control won't work here. Froch made it worse with his post fight idiotic rant.

Aye, Frank, you're right.

Froch underestimated Groves and ALMOST paid the price. I'm not defending Froch; IMO, he looked ****e last night - cumbersome, sluggish and out of sorts.

Groves was exceptional early on, but was tiring after round 6. The referee denied Froch a legitimate stoppage.

Alas, **** happens.

[Djanxx]

George Groves exposed Carl Froch as a fighter and as a man, he's devoid of any self-awareness, humility or class. The most patronising man I've ever seen.

Which is funny since the media in the UK love to big him up as a guy with class, that's a load of nonsense, he is a nasty piece of work.

[Djanxx]

froch must be the worst multiple champ of all time. terrible technique balance speed defence. and he is an arrogant ****. groved would have won if he wasnt so gungho and fought smarter like the first couple rounds. sorry im wrong the ref and judges would have ***ed him over anyway. **** froch he is so ****

The fool think's he's a superior fighter to Calzaghe LMAO

[- Ram Raid -]

I've watched round 7 four times now, the last of which I slowed the frame-rate down, to try and fathom how some have managed to score it for Froch and see it as a turning point.

He lands an uppercut in the clinch early on and a left as Groves leaves himself open. A small number of flicking jabs a scattered through the round. Other than that, he lands next to no clean shots. The punches that come in flurries land on Groves gloves.

He gets wobbled by a double jab at the beginning of the round, takes solid jabs to the face on a number of occasions, gets hit with a scoring left hook at close quarters while his own shots hit nothing but gloves, he takes a couple of big right hands and then is hit at the close with a double left hook and a right before forcing a straight left of his own amid landing on gloves then missing a right way wide of the mark.

So for anyone who scored that round for Froch, would you care to watch it again and give a breakdown on how you've got him winning that round? Because at the moment I can only conclude that it's down to wishful thinking coupled with the fact that it was an improvement on the sixth because he took less punishment.

[CraigM]

The fool think's he's a superior fighter to Calzaghe LMAO

I actually hope that he now stops with the whole Calzaghe and Ward comparisons, for his legacy sake I think he should do the Vegas thing then retire.

I personally think Groves would've held on for the round and took the next round off a bit, then it's anyones game.

[Frank Ducketts]

Aye, Frank, you're right.

Froch underestimated Groves and ALMOST paid the price. I'm not defending Froch; IMO, he looked ****e last night - cumbersome, sluggish and out of sorts.

Groves was exceptional early on, but was tiring after round 6. The referee denied Froch a legitimate stoppage.

Alas, **** happens.

I don't know if he stopped Froch from a legitimate stoppage, but he did stop the fight when he shouldn't have. I rooted for Froch. Das my dude. All he had to do was be humble in victory. He ran his mouth too much last night.

[killamoneymike]

He's not wrong.

He started landing in round 8, Groves was visibly tiring and then he was going to stop him in the 9th before the ref stepped in.

Credit to Groves for the first half, but it was becoming a Froch fight from 7-9 and he had him in bad shape. The ref has cost Froch a clear win.

It was becoming a Froch fight from the 7th round on, but I feel like it was a Groves fight 1-6. Plus one 10-8 rd. So even if Froch magically stole the last 6 rounds, he'd still be behind by 1 pt on my score card. And there was no guarantee he'd even take the last rounds. The stoppage was def premature he has every right to feel robbed. Froch is just talking just to talk. Froch talks a lot, hes a great fighter, but he talks a lot. Thats partially why there was so much build up to this fight.

[boxingfocus]

Froch saving face because he got absolutely dropped in the first round and six rounds after that operated in zombie mode. Groves never went down at least and had the fight won. Groves probably would have survived and went on to win a decision most likely if not completely finish Froch. With all of this talking now Froch has to take the rematch knowing that Groves dropped him like a brick in the first fight and he can't go on saying anymore that he knocked down Groves in sparring.

For the record (and I in no way agree with or condone the record) 2 judges had it 76-75 Grove after 8 and thus after 9 it would have been even.

So to say George "probably would have surfvived and went on to win a decision" is inaccurate.

Sadly for the Saint, fighting 4 people in a ring instead of 1 is a bit of a tough ask, especially when you're against somebody who take a punch like Froch (there was a stunning 3 shot salvo that I swear would decapitate any normal man, and Froch just stood there and took it, every shot clean and flush).

The only way Groves was winning that fight was by KO. Corrupt as hell, unfortunately. The ref and the judges knew which side their bread was buttered.