My View on the Groves Stoppage.

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  • slimshandy69
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    #31
    Originally posted by NorvernRob
    Yet you are claiming robbery despite not knowing what would have happened either?

    Please explain who was robbed, and of what. Groves was around 4 points up and just about to lose an almost certain 10-8 round even if he wasn't stopped. There were still 3 rounds after that and he was fading while Froch was starting to walk through him, he wasn't even clinching anymore.

    The way I see it Groves was only robbed of the chance to carry on, not of the actual fight. Froch was robbed of the chance to finish him properly and the public were robbed of a satisfactory end to the fight.

    Nobody is happy about how the fight ended but in no way was Groves robbed of a clear win.

    For what it's worth I put money on Groves too.
    great post....

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    • Sane Man
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      #32
      Originally posted by Curtiz
      Thats funny you say that.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...-stoppage.html

      Watch the 1st video and apologise for lieing.
      From what I got "Buzzed a little bit."

      And

      "I was nowhere near as hurt as he had been"

      So he was buzzed...but just a little. He never denied he was hurt. He said he was hurt but downplayed it. And of course he's going to downplay how hurt he was. He's a fighter, that's their mentality. It's why Vitali Klitschko wanted to fight on against Lewis despite having a cut that needed dozens of stitches. Do you not understand that?

      If Groves says he was capable of fighting on then I'll take that at face value and accept that. But does this look like a guy defending himself?



      Arms at his sides and turning away.

      Froch was caught with some huge punches but his arms were always back up and he was always facing Groves.

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      • Sane Man
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        #33
        Okay. I just watched the ten seconds of the stoppage on a loop on YouTube and I gotta say it looks suspect. When you repeatedly watch it you see certain things.

        Like the fact Groves throws two punches seconds before it's stopped and has his gloves up a few split seconds before it's stopped. And literally a split second before it's stopped Groves attempts to push Froch off. That straightens his arms out. As that happens the referee jumps in and holds Groves. Groves is leaning forward due to his push attempt and the referee d****s himself over Groves. So in all the pics it looks like Groves is slumped over with his arms down.

        Watch 0:40 to 0:50 a few times.

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        • Curtiz
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          #34
          Originally posted by Rocky=Ward
          groves admitted he was hurt in the post fight
          buzzed is not hurt

          his words

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...-stoppage.html

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          • Curtiz
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            #35
            Originally posted by Sane Man
            Okay. I just watched the ten seconds of the stoppage on a loop on YouTube and I gotta say it looks suspect. When you repeatedly watch it you see certain things.

            Like the fact Groves throws two punches seconds before it's stopped and has his gloves up a few split seconds before it's stopped. And literally a split second before it's stopped Groves attempts to push Froch off. That straightens his arms out. As that happens the referee jumps in and holds Groves. Groves is leaning forward due to his push attempt and the referee d****s himself over Groves. So in all the pics it looks like Groves is slumped over with his arms down.

            Watch 0:40 to 0:50 a few times.

            Are you serious? This is beyond belief.

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            • ImStillHere
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              #36
              Originally posted by Curtiz
              Are you serious? This is beyond belief.
              Ok, calm down. He is saying that he is starting to agree with you.

              It was bull****. Groves only a round before was dropping his hands and doing a "whitaker" on Froch. He was always trying to avoid them shots and as the guy above said was throwing back. People making excuses are doing just that, making excuses. It was a piss poor stoppage.

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              • FrankieBruno
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                #37
                Originally posted by Sane Man
                Okay. I just watched the ten seconds of the stoppage on a loop on YouTube and I gotta say it looks suspect. When you repeatedly watch it you see certain things.

                Like the fact Groves throws two punches seconds before it's stopped and has his gloves up a few split seconds before it's stopped. And literally a split second before it's stopped Groves attempts to push Froch off. That straightens his arms out. As that happens the referee jumps in and holds Groves. Groves is leaning forward due to his push attempt and the referee d****s himself over Groves. So in all the pics it looks like Groves is slumped over with his arms down.

                Watch 0:40 to 0:50 a few times.

                If you watch the clip you clearly see Groves didn't turn his back, it was Froch who moves back and side stepped him, which gives the illusion that Groves had his back to him. Everything is much more revealing in slow mo

                Stoppage was a disgrace, the ref was bent

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                • Sane Man
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ImStillHere
                  Ok, calm down. He is saying that he is starting to agree with you.

                  It was bull****. Groves only a round before was dropping his hands and doing a "whitaker" on Froch. He was always trying to avoid them shots and as the guy above said was throwing back. People making excuses are doing just that, making excuses. It was a piss poor stoppage.
                  The hilarious bit is that I never actually disagreed with him. I was just trying to objectively look at the decision from both sides. And trying to find reasons why the ref stopped it.

                  Then when I make a post that agrees with his stand point he says it's beyond belief.

                  Dude is just spoiling for a fight.

                  My initial reaction was it was a BS stoppage and after watching the closing seconds multiple times and a few times in slow motion I stick by that opinion.

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                  • ImStillHere
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sane Man
                    The hilarious bit is that I never actually disagreed with him. I was just trying to objectively look at the decision from both sides. And trying to find reasons why the ref stopped it.

                    Then when I make a post that agrees with his stand point he says it's beyond belief.

                    Dude is just spoiling for a fight.

                    My initial reaction was it was a BS stoppage and after watching the closing seconds multiple times and a few times in slow motion I stick by that opinion.
                    He's just pissed he lost money. Don't know why anyone would waste money betting on such an unpredictable sport

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                    • Curtiz
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ImStillHere
                      He's just pissed he lost money. Don't know why anyone would waste money betting on such an unpredictable sport
                      Yes thats the only reason, has to be.

                      Can't be that it actually a controversial decision and half of NSB is talking about it.

                      Not my fault you're all seeing sense finally.

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