My View on the Groves Stoppage.

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  • Sane Man
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    My View on the Groves Stoppage.

    I personally don't feel it should have been stopped in that moment. Groves got caught a few times but took the shots, he threw two punches seconds before the fight was stopped and was moving and trying to evade punches. He wasn't caught on the ropes, getting teed off on with his head snapping back.

    Having said that probably a few seconds later it would have been time to stop it. Probably.

    But due to the circumstances in that moment, the nature of the fight and its importance I feel Groves earned an extra few seconds to prove he could weather the storm.

    But to be fair to the referee he's got a split second to make a decision. If he'd allowed it to continue and Froch seriously hurt Groves then everyone would be crucifying him for that reason.

    What I take issue with is that he gave Froch every chance after the knockdown. Froch was down heavily and on jelly legs when he got back up. Groves followed up with two big punches that buckled Froch. He made the correct decision there and let Froch get saved by the bell and weather the storm. So why in a similar situation for Groves does he immediately stop the fight?

    You don't see many stoppages taking place in the centre of the ring, while the other guy is still on his feet.

    Bottom line is: yes Froch probably would have stopped him for real soon after, but Groves earned the right to have the chance to prove that outcome wrong.

    Gutted for him. You could see what it meant to him. Froch his usual cocky, motormouth self.

    Froch believed his own hype and got exposed. Non existent defense. Always struggles against someone who can box skillfully. Which makes a mockery of his suggestions he would have beat Calzaghe and would have won a rematch against Ward.

    For that reason I'm not convinced he genuinely wants a rematch with Groves.

    Hopefully his hurt pride will make it happen. Because it's what we want to see. There's too much doubt after an ending like that.

    Never seen public opinion change like that. Groves is being portrayed as the gallant loser and Froch as someone who lucked out.

    Have some sympathy for Froch though. He wouldn't have wanted it to turn out like that. But it is what is it is.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Sane Man
    I personally don't feel it should have been stopped in that moment. Groves got caught a few times but took the shots, he threw two punches seconds before the fight was stopped and was moving and trying to evade punches. He wasn't caught on the ropes, getting teed off on with his head snapping back.

    Having said that probably a few seconds later it would have been time to stop it. Probably.

    But due to the circumstances in that moment, the nature of the fight and its importance I feel Groves earned an extra few seconds to prove he could weather the storm.

    But to be fair to the referee he's got a split second to make a decision. If he'd allowed it to continue and Froch seriously hurt Groves then everyone would be crucifying him for that reason.

    What I take issue with is that he gave Froch every chance after the knockdown. Froch was down heavily and on jelly legs when he got back up. Groves followed up with two big punches that buckled Froch. He made the correct decision there and let Froch get saved by the bell and weather the storm. So why in a similar situation for Groves does he immediately stop the fight?

    You don't see many stoppages taking place in the centre of the ring, while the other guy is still on his feet.

    Bottom line is: yes Froch probably would have stopped him for real soon after, but Groves earned the right to have the chance to prove that outcome wrong.

    Gutted for him. You could see what it meant to him. Froch his usual cocky, motormouth self.

    Froch believed his own hype and got exposed. Non existent defense. Always struggles against someone who can box skillfully. Which makes a mockery of his suggestions he would have beat Calzaghe and would have won a rematch against Ward.

    For that reason I'm not convinced he genuinely wants a rematch with Groves.

    Hopefully his hurt pride will make it happen. Because it's what we want to see. There's too much doubt after an ending like that.

    Never seen public opinion change like that. Groves is being portrayed as the gallant loser and Froch as someone who lucked out.

    Have some sympathy for Froch though. He wouldn't have wanted it to turn out like that. But it is what is it is.
    Couldn't agree more! good post

    Always thought of Froch was an arrogant bellend and this just validates my point more, I respect his achievements and he has proved me wrong in fights before but the guy is a kunt

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    • Curtiz
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      #3
      Few seconds later?

      The stoppage was pathetic.

      Was groves hurt. NO

      So how would he be seriously hurt after a few seconds more.

      It was a ***ing bull**** call and obviously rigged.

      I'm disgusted ......

      Froch is a piece of **** aswell.

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      • REMOVED SHARK 97
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        I don't know about this myth* that Froch got exposed, he was his usual self and just what you expected.

        Hard chin and comes on strong in the latter half of the fight, Froch grinds you down and is an excellent finisher.

        Groves dazzled with handspeed and a great Knockdown, but the fight was turning, Groves making schoolboy errors and fatiguing, and moved into Froch territory.

        Everyone is pi$$ed, Groves no chance of weathering the storm, Froch for getting no credit from coming back and laying the smackdown and potential definitive KO.

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        • yoz
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          #5
          Originally posted by Akucapri
          I don't know about this myth* that Froch got exposed, he was his usual self and just what you expected.

          Hard chin and comes on strong in the latter half of the fight, Froch grinds you down and is an excellent finisher.

          Groves dazzled with handspeed and a great Knockdown, but the fight was turning, Groves making schoolboy errors and fatiguing, and moved into Froch territory.

          Everyone is pi$$ed, Groves no chance of weathering the storm, Froch for getting no credit from coming back and laying the smackdown and potential definitive KO.
          The truth ^^^^^^.

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          • Sane Man
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            #6
            Originally posted by Curtiz
            Few seconds later?

            The stoppage was pathetic.

            Was groves hurt. NO

            So how would he be seriously hurt after a few seconds more.

            It was a ***ing bull**** call and obviously rigged.

            I'm disgusted ......

            Froch is a piece of **** aswell.
            As much as I dislike Froch, and he did speak some BS in that post-fight interview, he said, and I can see where he was coming from, "I had a free shot or two on him. You can't let a boxer have free hits. It's dangerous."

            At the time of the stoppage Groves had his hands down and was turning away. I thought it looked like he was trying to evade punches or maybe turn and set his feet. Others could argue he wasn't effectively defending himself as his arms were down. It's all in how you look at it.

            A boxer can do some serious, serious damage in a few split seconds if someone isn't effectively defending themselves.

            It's not black and white.

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            • DoubleMM
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              #7
              was nothing more than a rigged fight. disgraceful.

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              • STEELHEAD
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                #8
                Originally posted by Akucapri
                I don't know about this myth* that Froch got exposed, he was his usual self and just what you expected.

                Hard chin and comes on strong in the latter half of the fight, Froch grinds you down and is an excellent finisher.

                Groves dazzled with handspeed and a great Knockdown, but the fight was turning, Groves making schoolboy errors and fatiguing, and moved into Froch territory.

                Everyone is pi$$ed, Groves no chance of weathering the storm, Froch for getting no credit from coming back and laying the smackdown and potential definitive KO.
                Thanks! ,',',',','

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                • Curtiz
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                  #9
                  If thats the ****ty logic you want to spread what chance do fighters have.

                  We are now counting "predicted punches" to outcomes of fights.

                  **** off honestly.



                  Watch that and tell me the fight should not be stopped in round 1 without being biased.

                  Froch didn't know where he was ....are you telling me he was not in a worse position to continue then groves?

                  Absolute BULLLLLL****

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                  • Anderson Silva
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                    #10
                    OP doesn't know ****, shut the **** up and stop making such ****** threads.

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